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Slarg232 wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Either way they released it when it wasn't ready and it tanked. Which is to bad because it could have been such a great game if it hadn't been cut off at the knees from the start.

That coffin was already filled when they

A) Made it a WoW clone

and

B) Made it a Warhammer Esque world, not a Warhammer one. The Lore is what makes Warhammer Warhammer, and you can't go through and systematically break the lore as badly as they did.....

how did they break the lore?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Either way they released it when it wasn't ready and it tanked. Which is to bad because it could have been such a great game if it hadn't been cut off at the knees from the start.

That coffin was already filled when they

A) Made it a WoW clone

and

B) Made it a Warhammer Esque world, not a Warhammer one. The Lore is what makes Warhammer Warhammer, and you can't go through and systematically break the lore as badly as they did.....

how did they break the lore?

Firstly, they allowed only one god to rampage the Empire; in Warhammer, it takes all four of them to unite behind a single champion before Chaos becomes ANY sort of threat.

Secondly, Male Dark Elf Sorcerers; Malketh heard of a foretelling that said he would be killed by a male dark elf sorcerer, and as such he executes every single one of them as soon as he discovers that they possess magic.

Thirdly, a Goblin advising an Orc; Orcs don't care, even if they do have magic.

THere are more, but I needsta eat.

Actually...I think it would be possible for there to be male sorcerers...they just won't be with any DE army, warband or so on, and will most certainly be very, very rare.

Slarg232 wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Slarg232 wrote:

Ahtman wrote:Either way they released it when it wasn't ready and it tanked. Which is to bad because it could have been such a great game if it hadn't been cut off at the knees from the start.

That coffin was already filled when they

A) Made it a WoW clone

and

B) Made it a Warhammer Esque world, not a Warhammer one. The Lore is what makes Warhammer Warhammer, and you can't go through and systematically break the lore as badly as they did.....

how did they break the lore?

Firstly, they allowed only one god to rampage the Empire; in Warhammer, it takes all four of them to unite behind a single champion before Chaos becomes ANY sort of threat.

That's not remotely true. Also, all four of the Powers had forces rampaging throughout the Empire. You only played as members of a Tzeentch dedicated tribe.

Secondly, Male Dark Elf Sorcerers; Malekith heard of a foretelling that said he would be killed by a male dark elf sorcerer, and as such he executes every single one of them as soon as he discovers that they possess magic.

This also isn't true.

Dark Elf army book, p.62

Part of the prophecy talks of a great warrior cast from his home by a sorcerer, and Malekith believes it is he to whom prophecy refers. As a result, male Dark Elf wizards are regarded with disdain, fear and superstitition, and they cannot be admitted to the Dark Convent. There are those in Naggaroth, however, who will employ such sorcerers to avoid owing a debt to the Convent of Sorcereresses.

Thirdly, a Goblin advising an Orc; Orcs don't care, even if they do have magic.

There are more, but I needsta eat.

Goblins advising Orcs might not necessarily be that common...but the Orc in charge of the great big ol' Waagh! is not a dumb one. He recognizes the value of a sneaker's input...


That last part though, was in the big hardcover comic packaged with the collector's edition. Every race had a comic, showing the "path to war" as the case may be.

I'm sure that's all true.


For you Tzeentch types.


Because I know, Chaos is begin to grow......

Slowly but surely...

The whole ME3 ending fiasco alone makes EA the worst company this year.

Even if the indoctrination theory is proven correct in a DLC it remains the stupidest stunt pulled by a video game company in a long time...

Worst possible ending: You never woke up from touching the beacon in ME1 and the entire thing is a coma dream.
On-topic: EA deserve this by far... people expect banks to be greedy sheep.

purplefood wrote:Worst possible ending: You never woke up from touching the beacon in ME1 and the entire thing is a coma dream.
On-topic: EA deserve this by far... people expect banks to be greedy sheep.

Amaya wrote:

purplefood wrote:Worst possible ending: You never woke up from touching the beacon in ME1 and the entire thing is a coma dream.
On-topic: EA deserve this by far... people expect banks to be greedy sheep.

Spoiler:

Everything points to Shepard either being indoctrinated or having a dying hallucination after getting hit by the Reaper at the end of Priority: Earth. Only way to break it is to have enough willpower to still desire to destroy the Reapers, which either breaks you from indoctrination or gives you enough willpower to get up and keep fighting.

Hey i'm just saying that'd be the worst possible ending they could do that'd still make sense...

This is the most fething slowed gak I've read in a long time.

EA IS THE WORST COMPANY IN AMERICA HURRR


Haliburton wins contracts under suspicious circumstances and kills people.

Bank of America steals peoples' houses, gets a government bailout, and doesn't pay taxes.

EA makes disappointing games, and lots of DLC, so they're worse than either of those.

Activision does the same gak EA does, but seems to get a pass.

EA at least is willing to take the occasional risk when it comes to publishing new games, which Activision does not do.

Also, to reiterate, BANK OF AMERICA LITERALLY STEALS AND HALIBURTON LITERALLY KILLS PEOPLE.

But EA is the worst company in America. HURR DURR HURR.

HONAW wrote:Now that is good. Hopefully....(but most likely not)...... It will open their eyes to the "peasants" that I am sure they refer to us as.

EA Exec 1: Goodness, it seems our fanbase is unhappy with us. We've been voted the worst company in America!
Exec 2: Does that mean they'll stop buying our games?
1: Heavens no, the companies that we've crushed beneath our feet are far too popular than that.
2: Onwards with the kitten-stomping evil, then!

Yeah, I'm thinking it'll take more than something like this for EA to care. So long as they keep an iron fist around their companies, gamers will keep buying their games.

RatBot wrote:*Snip*

Haliburton and BA both have already 'won' the award. It would probably be seen as pretty herpaderp and substantially diminish the symbolic impact to give the award to a company twice in the same decade.

I'm not defending EA, but surely, surely there is a company more deserving than one who makes a completely unnecessary luxury good, like video games? I mean, talk about your first world problems.

How about oil companies, or a different company who played a significant role in the GFC? I mean, BoA and others were on the poll, so IMO they're far more valid choices than EA.

I mean, giving the "award" to EA automatically makes this pretty fething ridiculous and removes any symbolic impact the award might've had in my mind and the mind of most people I know.

It isn't a serious ethics probe into the business world, it is a popularity contest, albeit in reverse.

Its the Razzies for corporations

Giving EA the award is a bit more deep than "they suck at videogames hurr".

It symbolizes how terrible they are at customer service, how they always have a negative effect on the studio they take over, and are just asshats all around. They seem to have a complete and utter disdain for the people who buy their games.

Note that the voting was on the internet as well. Bank of the America doesn't exactly effect the majority of the voters, but EA certainly does.

Karon wrote:asshats

Hey! That sir is a stereotype and I take offense! At best, EA is made of asssocks (don't tell Lord of Socks I said that he owns my apartment).

Karon wrote:Giving EA the award is a bit more deep than "they suck at videogames hurr".

It symbolizes how terrible they are at customer service, how they always have a negative effect on the studio they take over, and are just asshats all around. They seem to have a complete and utter disdain for the people who buy their games.

Note that the voting was on the internet as well. Bank of the America doesn't exactly effect the majority of the voters, but EA certainly does.

What's really sad is that they don't exactly do terrible games. There are some bad examples, but for the most part the games they've got are pretty good (I know, they're publishers and not developers, but they don't exactly own a bunch of bad companies, really). The problem is their customer service is abysmal, and I've heard awful, awful things about Origin, though I myself have never had an issue with it.

haHA. Finally EA got its bad Karma feedback.
serve their rights. they ruined game industry just to favor those Srivijayan lowlifes!

now... it's time they should realize what is the best thing to do. sell C&C license back to the public bidding!

What does an extinct indonesian empire have to do with anything?

certain cities hosting the financial powerhouses that is about to rule the world.
Srivijaya is not only just Indonesia, it also includes Malaysia, and Singhapore.

Lone Cat wrote:certain cities hosting the financial powerhouses that is about to rule the world.
Srivijaya is not only just Indonesia, it also includes Malaysia, and Singhapore.

Huh, I was not aware of that.
So its like Majestic 12 then?

I don't know what Majestic 12 is? but I only know that they are robber barons. their wealth always come with agony of their neighbours.

Fifa new £39.99
Fifa second hand £36.99
havinng to buy online pass to play £10.00
Total 2nd hand price, £46.99

its a shame they can get away with it

Formosa wrote:Fifa new £39.99
Fifa second hand £36.99
havinng to buy online pass to play £10.00
Total 2nd hand price, £46.99

its a shame they can get away with it

I suppose that depends where exactly you get it from second hand... You might be lucky enough to get it off your mate for a tenner, in which case the online pass price is much less of an issue.

But yes, when it's being sold second hand that close to retail price it does strike me as being a bit off....

They're not "getting away with it". The companies selling things second-hand are not affiliated with the publishers/developers. Online passes are there specifically to screw over those second-hand retailers and to try to engender negative feelings towards them.

Kanluwen wrote:Online passes are there specifically to screw over those second-hand retailers and to try to engender negative feelings towards them.

And look how well that's going! Look at all the praise they're getting from it! Oh, How EA gets hate is beyond me.




I was talking to Golden Eyed Scout about EA, and I think I can sum up our conversation.

EA wrote:We're combating perceived piracy by hiking up the price of our games, lowering our customer service, and making it a pain in the ass to get online! Not to mention the Day One DLC, and the fact that we're now selling the real ending to Mass Effect 3 for 10 dollars!

Let's also spite second-hand sellers by creating an Online Pass that will make us money from the used games market!

The consumer? feth 'em!

Lone Cat wrote:I don't know what Majestic 12 is? but I only know that they are robber barons. their wealth always come with agony of their neighbours.

They are to be a secret meeting of the world's richest men who use secrecy and their wealth to control politicians. Its conspiracy theory stuff, granted...but then again, there are lobbyists...


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Chowderhead wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Online passes are there specifically to screw over those second-hand retailers and to try to engender negative feelings towards them.

And look how well that's going! Look at all the praise they're getting from it! Oh, How EA gets hate is beyond me.




I was talking to Golden Eyed Scout about EA, and I think I can sum up our conversation.

EA wrote:We're combating perceived piracy by hiking up the price of our games, lowering our customer service, and making it a pain in the ass to get online! Not to mention the Day One DLC, and the fact that we're now selling the real ending to Mass Effect 3 for 10 dollars!

Let's also spite second-hand sellers by creating an Online Pass that will make us money from the used games market!

The consumer? feth 'em!

Wait what? They are charging us for the real ending of the game? Something that was meant to be in the game to begin with, or at least accessible for free?

Cthuluisspy wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Online passes are there specifically to screw over those second-hand retailers and to try to engender negative feelings towards them.

And look how well that's going! Look at all the praise they're getting from it! Oh, How EA gets hate is beyond me.




I was talking to Golden Eyed Scout about EA, and I think I can sum up our conversation.

EA wrote:We're combating perceived piracy by hiking up the price of our games, lowering our customer service, and making it a pain in the ass to get online! Not to mention the Day One DLC, and the fact that we're now selling the real ending to Mass Effect 3 for 10 dollars!

Let's also spite second-hand sellers by creating an Online Pass that will make us money from the used games market!

The consumer? feth 'em!

Wait what? They are charging us for the real ending of the game? Something that was meant to be in the game to begin with, or at least accessible for free?