Santorum almost drops the N-bomb when talking about The President of The Unite States?

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**chaos0xomega**

Its quite obviuos that he mispoke and said said "governmentnick" or something to that extent... this thread is ridiculous. I hate Santorum just as much of the next guy, but to accuse him of saying n***** is just low.

**dogma**

Ouze wrote:I decide? Ok, he didn't almost use the N word. I have no idea what he was actually going to say, other that it started with an N. A lot of words start with N. The "ig" that followed it, that's just not clear to me and I think it's really a rorshach about how you feel.

This is a man who despite having (comparatively) little money and outlandish views had managed to make himself relevant and stay there as a serious contender in the race for the President of the United States of America. He's obviously quite intelligent because you simply cannot do what he has done otherwise. Even if there were evidence he's a closet racist (and there isn't, despite him being a professional politician for many years with infinite opportunities to expose himself); he's too polished, practiced, and in-control to make such a sloppy leak at this exceedingly late point in time. It cannot happen, it did not happen.

With the things Santorum actually says, we don't need to grasp for things he might have said to find him loathful.

Exactly. Santorum is many things, but he hasn't shown himself to be a racist. And, honestly, given how ridiculous some of his proposals have been politically, I'm not sure he could cover it up if he were.

**CT GAMER**

dogma wrote:

Exactly. Santorum is many things, but he hasn't shown himself to be a racist.

I'll take your word on that, though when he made a campaign stop in Jan. and was speaking about government aid he stated " I don't want to give black people other people's money, i want them to earn their own..."(paraphrasing).

It is important t note that he singled out black people in his response even though I assume we can all agree that not just "black people" benefit from gov. aid...

As for this clip. It stands on it's own.

And I'll apologize to Santorum for highlighting this "low blow" gainst him when he apologizes for all the homophobic and untrue thing she has said about various people and groups repeatedly.

**CptJake**

I have a tiny bit of experience with (at the time) Sen Santorum and his staff. Frankly, he disgusts me. Having said that, based on my admittedly limited experience, he isn't a racist.

Jake

**Frazzled**

Ouze wrote:
Ratius wrote:Wow, I like your posts overall Ouze but, WTF?

Uhhhm as a US Citizen you would support him ?

Assuming you cannot..........

Pick me an alternative - thats an open Q, no baiting intended.

Me, support Santorum? Absolutely not. I find Santorum's rise to be a deeply disturbing trend in American politics. I am horrified by some of his ideas, disturbed by his utter obsession with what gay people do; and repulsed by his desires to further entwine religion into government (so long as you're the right religion, anyway). As an American, every day when I read about Santoum doing well in this primary or other, it's like reading the goddamn Onion - it's surreal and hard to believe.

However, despite how reprehensible I find Santorum, I'm able to recognize he has excellent political skills in getting this far. It just seems unlikely someone with the N word on the very tip of his tongue would be able to successfully suppress it for so long of an incredibly public career. I don't need to infer unsaid things he may have thought to find him repellent because looking at his past statements provide adequate evidence whatever he was going to say would have been just as repellent anyway, just differently so.

So far as who i support, personally... I don't. I'm registered as no party, and that's exactly who I like this election. I'm disinclined to vote at all, but since I've never failed to vote in a national election at all, I guess my civil duty will kick in and I'm likely to vote for the person I find the least odious; in this case Obama. I don't see any serious distinction between Obama and Romney, though, just minor niggles between them here and there over just how fast to sell out to the multinational corporations and landed gentry that actually run this country (hey look, an N word that wasn't that word!). I follow politics like people follow football; I'm fascinated with the game even if I'm not very fond of any of the teams.

Have faith. Santorum is a lightweight, like Kacinich and a plethora of Democratic and Republican candidates before. Thats what the vetting process is for.
Unfortunately they are all lightweights and the Presidency has been run by rank amateurs since Barabara Bush was the iron hammer behind Bush Sr. Where is Nixon when you need him?

**Experiment 626**

Isn't Santorum the one who outright said he'd end Iran's nuke programe by simply launching a pre-emptive strike and bombing all their plants?!

**Frazzled**

Experiment 626 wrote:Isn't Santorum the one who outright said he'd end Iran's nuke programe by simply launching a pre-emptive strike and bombing all their plants?!

Sorry no, that was me.

**Easy E**

Maybe he should consider using a tele-prompter?

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Frazzled wrote: Where is Nixon when you need him?

Yorba Linda, CA

http://www.travelin-tigers.com/ztravel/prznixo.htm

**Monster Rain**

I wouldn't vote for Santorum over pretty much anyone, but I don't think he in any way intended to use that word in a campaign speech.

**timetowaste85**

The video shown in the original post REALLY sounds like he is about to use the N-word. You clearly hear the first three letters. However, this is a broken video, that repeats 3 times and has definitely been adjusted by somebody down the lines-so salt needed. Is he about to say it, or is it videoshopped that he is about to say it? I'm not defending him-I think Santorum is a douchebag. But I'm saying the video in the first post shows him about to say it, whether the video is real or forged.

**illuknisaa**

I don't get why people get so upset if somebody says somebody [see forum posting rules]? Isnt it just a word people use? If somebody is a "[see forum posting rules]" isn't referring him as a [see forum posting rules] just stating the obvious?

**purplefood**

illuknisaa wrote:I don't get why people get so upset if somebody says somebody [see forum posting rules]? Isnt it just a word people use? If somebody is a "[see forum posting rules]" isn't referring him as a [see forum posting rules] just stating the obvious?

It's a racial slur...

**alarmingrick**

illuknisaa wrote:I don't get why people get so upset if somebody says somebody [see forum posting rules]? Isnt it just a word people use? If somebody is a "[see forum posting rules]" isn't referring him as a [see forum posting rules] just stating the obvious?

So people are what other people think they are? Would you like it if I judged you on your stupid question?
And for the record, changing "er" to "a" really doesn't help. the intent is still the same.

And frankly I feel it says more about someone who uses the N word than it does to who it's being used on.

**illuknisaa**

purplefood wrote:
illuknisaa wrote:I don't get why people get so upset if somebody says somebody [see forum posting rules]? Isnt it just a word people use? If somebody is a "[see forum posting rules]" isn't referring him as a [see forum posting rules] just stating the obvious?

It's a racial slur...

You mean like dog and bear?

As far as I know [see forum posting rules] (thx for the spelling) is used to describe a group of people in a way that it conveys the knowledge about the people in current context. I don't that offensive in any way.

**Amaya**

Aren't you from Finland? If so, it's apparent you have no idea how offensive the word is to African-Americans. It's a thing that I think most of the world won't really understand.

**Slarg232**

Personally, I hate the N-bomb for the double standard; it's racist if a white guy says it, but if a black guy says it it's ok, and that's NOT racist at ALL! Now, I'm not saying I should be able to go around saying N-word, N-word, but neither should anyone else, really.....

**Ahtman**

illuknisaa wrote:You mean like dog and bear?

Neither of those are racial slurs.

illuknisaa wrote:As far as I know [see forum posting rules] (thx for the spelling) is used to describe a group of people in a way that it conveys the knowledge about the people in current context.

Then you don't know much of what you are speaking about it would seem.

illuknisaa wrote:I don't that offensive in any way.

Considering it doesn't apply to you, you don't understand the meaning, and are unclear on the cultural connotations, that really isn't a shock.

**dogma**

Frazzled wrote:
Unfortunately they are all lightweights and the Presidency has been run by rank amateurs since Barabara Bush was the iron hammer behind Bush Sr. Where is Nixon when you need him?

Eh, I think Clinton and Herbert Walker were above average, with Clinton verging on excellent (he dodged impeachment and still remained quite popular) with Bush II and Obama sitting right around the middle.

**Necroshea**

Slarg232 wrote:Personally, I hate the N-bomb for the double standard; it's racist if a white guy says it, but if a black guy says it it's ok, and that's NOT racist at ALL! Now, I'm not saying I should be able to go around saying N-word, N-word, but neither should anyone else, really.....

>>Gain black friends
>>Slowly slip it in here and there
>>Everyone get's used to it, no butt is pained
>>feelsgoodman.zip

**Amaya**

I've used it a couple times around black friends, but even then it slipped out mistakenly primarily due to their excessive use of the word. They didn't even seem to notice it, but it felt awkward.

**LoneLictor**

Slarg232 wrote:Personally, I hate the N-bomb for the double standard; it's racist if a white guy says it, but if a black guy says it it's ok, and that's NOT racist at ALL! Now, I'm not saying I should be able to go around saying N-word, N-word, but neither should anyone else, really.....

Yes, its so unfair towards us white people! We aren't allowed to say the n-word! And all we get in return are higher incomes, better education, history rewritten in our favor and 44 out of 45 presidents! Why, we ought to form our own organization, just for white people, where we fight back against the oppressive blacks.

[/sarcasm]

**illuknisaa**

Amaya wrote:Aren't you from Finland? If so, it's apparent you have no idea how offensive the word is to African-Americans. It's a thing that I think most of the world won't really understand.

Ahh interesting I didn't know african americans are also butthurt about n-word with 150 years old slaves from Nigeria.

And yes I'm from Finland that country that has been under the rule of two countries both of which of them have treated finland as a "buffer zone". And the real fun part starts when finland gets it's independence we (we actually did get invaded as people who survived latest war are still alive) get invaded by one of the greatest military mights of that time and nobody gave a gak.

People who suffered during american slavery are dead.

Also I find offensive that you use the word "Finland" to describe my country instead of its real name "Suomi" .

**Amaya**

Don't presume to know anything about American racial issues.

**Slarg232**

LoneLictor wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:Personally, I hate the N-bomb for the double standard; it's racist if a white guy says it, but if a black guy says it it's ok, and that's NOT racist at ALL! Now, I'm not saying I should be able to go around saying N-word, N-word, but neither should anyone else, really.....

Yes, its so unfair towards us white people! We aren't allowed to say the n-word! And all we get in return are higher incomes, better education, history rewritten in our favor and 44 out of 45 presidents! Why, we ought to form our own organization, just for white people, where we fight back against the oppressive blacks.

[/sarcasm]

Yes, it's so unfair towards us white people! If you say anything bad about the one president, you get called a racist! There is a Black People Only scholarship fund, but to have a White People Only Scholarship is RACIST! Truely it's totally allowable and correct that the majority of Americans think that white men and women cannot be discriminated against, because their WHITE, which is a skin color!

We should totally allow the country to fall back into segregation, because it's obviously white mans turn to be discriminated against! (For those of you whom think that's ludicrous, look at WW and WWII; Germans were discriminated against because of WW, and so Hitler poisoned quite a few peoples' minds into thinking it was their turn to discriminate.....)

I beleive in equality; I get payed $40 an hour for a job (I wish), I expect the black woman to get paid the same exact amount. I, as a white male, have to go to the frontline if there is a war? I expect a black woman to go there too. I expect that if I get fired for saying one thing, a black woman deserves to get fired for saying the exact same thing. You do not get it both ways, you do not get to go back and forth; your my equal or your not, you can't have it both ways, and to expect anything else is to be not worth my time.

**Melissia**

Slarg232 wrote:I beleive in equality; I get payed $40 an hour for a job (I wish), I expect the black woman to get paid the same exact amount.

But she doesn't.

Slarg232 wrote:I, as a white male, have to go to the frontline if there is a war?

Only if you volunteer. and women serve on the front lines too these days.

**MeanGreenStompa**

Am I allowed to sing along to 'the day the [see forum posting rules] took over' by Dr Dre?

**Slarg232**

Melissia wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:I beleive in equality; I get payed $40 an hour for a job (I wish), I expect the black woman to get paid the same exact amount.
But she doesn't.

I know and it's wrong, and if there was much I could do about it I would, but let's face it; there isn't much someone like me can do when America is more interested in Bert and Ernie being gay (on a god damned childrens show; seriously why should they even care

) than what's going on with politics/equality.

Slarg232 wrote:I, as a white male, have to go to the frontline if there is a war?
Only if you volunteer. and women serve on the front lines too these days.

I highly doubt "Volunteer" will have anything to do with it, due to todays politicians and the fact that we haven't been in a war for quite some time, so policy is sure to have changed.

Seriously, I hate politicians.

**sirlynchmob**

Slarg232 wrote:
Melissia wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:I beleive in equality; I get payed $40 an hour for a job (I wish), I expect the black woman to get paid the same exact amount.
But she doesn't.

I know and it's wrong, and if there was much I could do about it I would, but let's face it; there isn't much someone like me can do when America is more interested in Bert and Ernie being gay (on a god damned childrens show; seriously why should they even care ) than what's going on with politics/equality.

Slarg232 wrote:I, as a white male, have to go to the frontline if there is a war?
Only if you volunteer. and women serve on the front lines too these days.

I highly doubt "Volunteer" will have anything to do with it, due to todays politicians and the fact that we haven't been in a war for quite some time, so policy is sure to have changed.

Seriously, I hate politicians.

America has an all volunteer force. It would be a real hard sell to the people to start up a draft again.

Its one thing to send volunteers over to fight and die in a never ending war in the middle east. Hey they volunteered for it. Plus as long as they keep the economy in the dumps, they'll always have a fresh supply of volunteers.

We are at war, we declared a war on terrorism which led us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, and it seems Iran is next on the "to invade" list.

**CT GAMER**

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Am I allowed to sing along to 'the day the [see forum posting rules] took over' by Dr Dre?

As long as you substitute "governmentnick" or "Nigerian". You know: two words that sound the same...

**Slarg232**

sirlynchmob wrote:We are at war, we declared a war on terrorism which led us to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, and it seems Iran is next on the "to invade" list.

Son, what we are in is classified as a Skirmish, we only ever fought in five Wars in our history; Revolutionary, Civil, WW, WWII, and the Vietnam (Not sure about that last one).

I hate to say it, and I know it's tragic in it's entirity, but when only five people die during a fight, that's a very, very good thing in an actual war.