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sourclams wrote:

Clthomps wrote: It seem that even with a truckload of scientific data, some people still don't believe in it,

Actually the truckload of scientific data seems to debunk GW these days. From big things like the CO2 emanations of all the world's termites dwarfs industrial human output to little things like 'global warming' has now morphed into 'climate change' because so many areas are cooling down.

AFAIK global warming was a term the media used rather than the people studying it. Climate change was always the term but for some reason global warming was an easier concept...

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:Yeah I sang this.

Never said goodbye To the life we left behind Well, I knew the life to come scared like me The night held secrets untold Months to follow to unfold The child that came was truly meant to be You're far away So far away But you're far away So far away Afraid we won't survive I'm afraid I won't provide It's how I really felt till I met you But you're far away So far away But you're far away So far away But you're far away So far away But you're far away So far away

I was given a bet. "Convince me." Because they told me there is no possible way that they would never ever cry to a song or music. Period!
Well. He did.
I convinced someone that I micro evolved my neck after wearing turtle necks for so long.

A much sadder and more moving song...

Spoiler:

Thats not sad at all mate. O.o
If your trying to make fun of my point. Then read the lyrics i wrote above.

The Lyrics if you want them dumbed down are basically.
Never SAy goodbye to the life we left behind. - Saying good bye to someone this person loves.
Well I knew the life to come scared like me. - He is scared of what the future will bring
The Night Held secrets untold months to follow to unfold. - The time they spent together would not be forgotten.
The Child that came was truly meant to be. - The time we had together was meant to truely be with us both.
Your Far Away- Now your gone, so far away,
Afraid we won't survive I'm afraid I won't provide - I am afraid I cannot provide you what you search for. You are too far away. And this relationship between us will not last long it will wither.
It's how I really felt till I met you. - I am too scared to tell you this, but I remembered why, He/her loves her/him.
Your So far away. So far away. - Now your gone, and so far away from me.
This is what happens when you take 3 months of Music Theory, Creative Writing, and AP Lit. I dissect music too much
Now how does this relate to how I changed someones opinion. I just tried to change someones opinion.
Music is deeper than you think. If it is done right that is.

Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

Good Music refers to music that can convey the artist's feelings correctly and not confusingly. Like a few genres of music that make no sense what so ever.

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

Good Music refers to music that can convey the artist's feelings correctly and not confusingly. Like a few genres of music that make no sense what so ever.

That's how you refer to it.

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

Good Music refers to music that can convey the artist's feelings correctly and not confusingly. Like a few genres of music that make no sense what so ever.

That's how you refer to it.

True. But some music makes some people cry. Like Eric Whitcare music. You either have two reactions. or an emotional response, or you will freeze and wonder how it exists. (I have talked to two people that like rap music and heavy metal and when they heard a few songs by Eric Whitcare the Composer they froze and had an emotional response,

Really good music becomes a crossover hit (not necessarily a top 40 one), but at least to the point where individuals who aren't even fans of the genre appreciate the song.

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

Good Music refers to music that can convey the artist's feelings correctly and not confusingly. Like a few genres of music that make no sense what so ever.

That's how you refer to it.

True. But some music makes some people cry. Like Eric Whitcare music. You either have two reactions. or an emotional response, or you will freeze and wonder how it exists. (I have talked to two people that like rap music and heavy metal and when they heard a few songs by Eric Whitcare the Composer they froze and had an emotional response,

Practically all music evokes some form of emotion...
Also that was 3 reactions

You mean Eric Whitacre?

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Please, tell me how, after 3 months of music theory, creative writing and AP lit (Whatever that is) you dissect music too much...

Well I take apart the lyrics and start interperting the music according to it seeing if it is a poem or a random gyberish that the artist threw in. Good Music is in Poem form.
Bad Music is Gyberish, with all the words scrabbled to make an effect.

It is possible you just don't listen to music. You are trying to see it from another angle. Hence why I hate alot of bands.

It's also possible i'm being sarcastic and a teensy bit condescending...
'Good' music is subjective and open to as many different types of interpretation as there are people.

Good Music refers to music that can convey the artist's feelings correctly and not confusingly. Like a few genres of music that make no sense what so ever.

That's how you refer to it.

True. But some music makes some people cry. Like Eric Whitcare music. You either have two reactions. or an emotional response, or you will freeze and wonder how it exists. (I have talked to two people that like rap music and heavy metal and when they heard a few songs by Eric Whitcare the Composer they froze and had an emotional response,

Practically all music evokes some form of emotion...
Also that was 3 reactions

So what I can't count. You convinced me of that.

Plus Heres another story.

So I was talking to this girl and I told her that the reason why I had such a long neck was because I wore turtle necks.
She said "Wait really? I didn't know you could do that!"
Me: "Did you know that men are 10x more likey to give birth than a women?"
She said "What? That's not right."
Me "Neither is what I said about my neck, yet you believed that, why do you have so much trouble believing that?"
Her: "........"

I convinced her of that. I think I also convinced a few girls I could open a door without using my hands. (Push doors)


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Amaya wrote:You mean Eric Whitacre?

yes


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Amaya wrote:Really good music becomes a crossover hit (not necessarily a top 40 one), but at least to the point where individuals who aren't even fans of the genre appreciate the song.

Yup basically.

I am thoroughly unimpressed by Eric Whitacre. You just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

Yes i have changed someone's opinion.

Ahserian Command wrote:So what I can't count. You convinced me of that.

Amaya wrote:I am thoroughly unimpressed by Eric Whitacre. You just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

And You do realize the song I quoted was the Faunts.

Asherian Command wrote:

Amaya wrote:I am thoroughly unimpressed by Eric Whitacre. You just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

And You do realize the song I quoted was the Faunts.

You said Eric Whitacre made people cry. I did not cry and was not moved emotionally. It sounded like run of the mill, over the top, sappy choral music.

Amaya wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Amaya wrote:I am thoroughly unimpressed by Eric Whitacre. You just wasted 5 minutes of my life.

And You do realize the song I quoted was the Faunts.

You said Eric Whitacre made people cry. I did not cry and was not moved emotionally. It sounded like run of the mill, over the top, sappy choral music.

So your saying that you yourself do not like choir music?

Thats fine.

Its not everybodys music.

Now a few songs I have sang that aren't choir music, are really good.

Though I am a hopeless Romantic.

Now So Far Away. Is a good song. And it may not be the best but if you have been in that situation it is a great song.

Romantic in the literal way or the popularised way?

purplefood wrote:Romantic in the literal way or the popularised way?

Literal way. Like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism

romance is over used. And cliched in Music.
Just saying.

"Singing" without actually speaking a single word annoys the piss out of me.

Asherian Command wrote:

purplefood wrote:Romantic in the literal way or the popularised way?

Literal way. Like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanticism

romance is over used. And cliched in Music.
Just saying.

This.
Is.
Brilliant.
I'm never looking at you in the same way...

As a musicologist, this discussion makes me profoundly sad.

Amaya wrote:"Singing" without actually speaking a single word annoys the piss out of me.

And some bands are masters of it. Or integrate aspects of it masterfully.

For proof see Elizabeth Fraser, particularly her work with the Cocteau twins. Stunning ability to convey emotion with melody alone.

I actually managed to kill someone's faith once. It wasn't a proud day for me. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm no friend of religion, but I don't feel like it was right. People should make that decision for themselves.