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Small portions for us I believe...he does have to feed a legion

Jihadin wrote:Small portions for us I believe...he does have to feed a legion

And you have to watch it. A wiener dog will literally eat its body weight in beef, or whatever disgusting hyper dead animal it finds on a walk.

It has also been proven awiener dog can indeed run with half a pizza in its mouth. SKITTER SKITTER SKITTER NOMNOMNOM SKITTER SKITTER SKITTER

ShumaGorath wrote:We had a talk a bit ago about the failure of democracy in the united states. Remember that?

Most of these things have come up before on this site. That keep coming up again and again, in part because new members raise them, and in part because the usual suspects keep pretending they don't know how something really works.

Mind you, we haven't had a gold standard thread in a while. Maybe that's one issue we finally managed to kill for good.


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Aerethan wrote:In Australia it is illegal to not vote. We need this law.

I've argued for how well this works in Australia for a long time. You may be the first American who's agreed with me


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ShumaGorath wrote:No we don't. I don't want people who don't know what the issues are voting. I'd rather not have elections made even more into American Idol contests than they are now. The electorate is a beast.

You've made a big mistake in assuming the people who vote know any more than the people who don't. Think about the people you know who sound off about their favourite political parties (or more likely sound off about how bad the other side is). Do they actually know anymore about politics than people who don't have strong political beliefs, or do they just have a bunch of political slogans memorised?

And then consider the impact of how this works overall. Swinging voters are a vastly overstated demographic in the US, and the parties both know this. People who aren't attached to one party or the other almost all stay home on election day. This means the election really comes down to how well each party gets out the people affiliated with its own side. The impact this has on US politics is enormous - there's no interest in doing anything, or campaigning on issues of general interest to the electorate, instead its all about making noise on specific party interests - so pleasing the social conservatives, gun nuts, evangelicals and businessmen for the Republican party. The Democrats make similar noise to appeal to minority groups, progressives and the like. Conversation on issues of general importance to the population is largely lost.


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Ouze wrote:On the plus side, they aren't even really trying to pretend that it's actually about eliminating voter fraud anymore, so that's a refreshing burst of honesty.

Wow. That pretty much just takes away the pretense entirely, doesn't it? Hmm, Pennsylvania is likely to be the tipping point in a Romney win, as well.


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Ahtman wrote:There will be no day without brisket!

BBQ'd brisket? Wouldn't that be really, really tough? I mean, if ever there was meat that needed slow cooking to make it edible...

sebster wrote:Anyone who pretends the right isn't trying to get this law in place in order to reduce the number of non-Republican voters in future elections is completely deluded.

Anyone who pretends the left isn't trying to stop this law in order to maintain the number of non-Republican voters in future elections is also completely deluded.

Once you realise both those things, it becomes obvious that two parties in an overtly partisan battle for how a country might conduct its elections is a very bad thing indeed. At which point it should be obvious that having the rules of the game written by the people who are trying to get elected is really crazy, and an independant, non-partisan body is a must to ensure democracy.

But then you guys got through Bush v Gore without figuring that out, so I don't know how this could be any different.

I think this is pretty important to repost since frazzled is hitting the wine again and Jihadin never lets other peoples posts get in his way anyway.

I love you to Shuma...btw I haven't seen you on in awhile but then I haven't been on in awhile either. Have to love shoulder surgery espacially when they reattach muscle and tendons in new location.

Jihadin wrote:I love you to Shuma...btw I haven't seen you on in awhile but then I haven't been on in awhile either. Have to love shoulder surgery espacially when they reattach muscle and tendons in new location.

I got disgusted with this community and stopped posting in off topic for a while.

ShumaGorath wrote:

sebster wrote:Anyone who pretends the right isn't trying to get this law in place in order to reduce the number of non-Republican voters in future elections is completely deluded.

Anyone who pretends the left isn't trying to stop this law in order to maintain the number of non-Republican voters in future elections is also completely deluded.

Once you realise both those things, it becomes obvious that two parties in an overtly partisan battle for how a country might conduct its elections is a very bad thing indeed. At which point it should be obvious that having the rules of the game written by the people who are trying to get elected is really crazy, and an independant, non-partisan body is a must to ensure democracy.

But then you guys got through Bush v Gore without figuring that out, so I don't know how this could be any different.

I think this is pretty important to repost since frazzled is hitting the wine again and Jihadin never lets other peoples posts get in his way anyway.

We even have our own family label now (no joke, its a pinot). Wiener Dog Wine, a nice red with just a little bite.


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Jihadin wrote:I love you to Shuma...btw I haven't seen you on in awhile but then I haven't been on in awhile either. Have to love shoulder surgery espacially when they reattach muscle and tendons in new location.

OW!