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Well, explosive decompression I think might be a little OP. I could see it with no armor saves allowed, however.

Drone controlled munitions seem standard tbh.. Not much to elaborate on.

Gravity Generator. +20
Units assaulting a Vehicle with Grav Gen half their charge distance.

Gravity Grenades +3pt a Model
Units charging a unit with Gravity Grenades half their charge distance

Fractal Reflectors +25 points
Equip Skimmers gain the 'hard to hit' special rule.
Reduce the hull points on the equip skimmer by half, rounded down.

Multi-Trackers : Gain "Models with Multi Trackers may gain the Skyfire special rule"

 
   
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Awesome ideas man. Totally love the gravity based tech but I would be afraid some melee army like Tyranids would get whiny about it y'know? Lets take a trip down this decompression road of yours. It does kind of fit. But we're talking a civilization that specifically built these things to get shot at. But here's the elephant in the room. If they come in out of space pressurized, fine. No fire points, I get that. But why are they pressurized at ground level in what I view as 'tank mode'? They have to open the hatches anyway right? It doesen't make sense to me to have its cabin pressurized if it doesn't need to be. It's not at high altitude and the Firewarriors inside have what I believe to be basic level environmental suits. (Just saying, there has to be 'XV 1' before XV 15 Stealth Suits Right? Kind of fits that it would just be your standard gear? Firewarriors wear XV 1s? Anybody think so? )

Fractal reflectors huh? Seems kind of lateral. Don't tell me you want all my tanks to die to one shot. And I give my army multi-tracks, bring on your flyers? Would that be a tank only option? Can infantry and suits get it?
   
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Edit: The decompression is caused by the railgun shot itself. there's fluff that says that the occupants were sucked through the exit hole of a broadside shot.

I say let them complain with the gravity stuff. They only need to get into combat with maybe 3 gaunts to sweep a squad.

I would say anything that can take multi-trackers can get skyfire. The fluff behind multi-trackers is that it's a computer system that accounts for the speed the unit is moving, and the speed the enemy is moving.

And Fractal Reflectors would be stupid broken if you didn't give up a hull point for it. (note, it says rounded down. All of our things have 3 HP.) It would take 2 glancing hits, with a 5+ cover save, needing 6's to hit. It's very good. Infact it might even be undercosted.

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AutoLoader: Treat the Hammerhead's railgun as twinlinked.
   
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 GnarYoFace wrote:
i would say make the rail gun on the hammerhead be able to re roll their Armour pen i mean that is a round being shot at the speed of light



So that would make it a one shot kill against AV basically, so no army will take AV against Tau if they think they have a hammerhead cant see it working imo

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MarkyMark wrote:
 GnarYoFace wrote:
i would say make the rail gun on the hammerhead be able to re roll their Armour pen i mean that is a round being shot at the speed of light



So that would make it a one shot kill against AV basically, so no army will take AV against Tau if they think they have a hammerhead cant see it working imo


So if I take some Medusa w/ bastion-breacher shells then nobody will bring AV against me? Cool, I didn't know this before !

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If you are playing against Tau with a super railgun they will do and stay just outside of your 48" ranger which would be possible on most tables, 72" on the other hand....

But yea reading the rules for that I wouldnt take AV against a guard army with one of those!

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I thought that wasArmourbane as opposed to re-roll to pen.

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 AtoMaki wrote:


So if I take some Medusa w/ bastion-breacher shells then nobody will bring AV against me? Cool, I didn't know this before !

A Medusa with BB rounds is not a hammerhead, it is much softer and shorter range. Also BB shells are literally designed to blow up bunkers. Honestly the only thing that needs a boost is their large blast weapon. When you have a 1 in 4 chance of killing a land raider outright once you hit (50/50 chance of penning, and 50/50 chance of blowing it up) you don't need help doing that. What the hammerhead needs is to give it a reason for existing and being taken over broadsides. Str 5 Ap 4 or whatever? The IG gets a tank that is strength 6 AP 4 and gets to ignore cover and a lot of people look down on it. At the very least you should be able to slay MEQs. Maybe str 6 AP 3 heavy 1, large blast.

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Buttons wrote:

When you have a 1 in 4 chance of killing a land raider outright once you hit (50/50 chance of penning, and 50/50 chance of blowing it up) you don't need help doing that.


Aaaactually, I think you've just nailed the problem of the Hammerhead. You can't get 4 Hammerheads for a "sure kill", but you can get 4 Broadsides rather easily to take out the target within 1 turn.

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Flash Bangs : 3pts a model
Photon Grenade with the "blind" special rule.

Flash Munitions : Free
Alternate shot to the HH.
Str 4 ap 5 Large Blast, Blind

 
   
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How about a S7 AP 3 L.Blast?

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 IHateNids wrote:
How about a S7 AP 3 L.Blast?


... Might as well just give it S8 ap3 and point to the defiler.

 
   
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What about it does D3 hull Points instead of one, or auto-explode if it pens, or possibly melta!
   
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Could work quack98. Anybody else think a Skyfire or Interceptor wargear modular upgrade for tanks would be cool? Maybe the new codex will get one.
   
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I believe there's a FW update with Skyfire heads for the HH. It's alright but nothing special.

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Longtime no see chrisrawr-bro! Really!? That wouldn't happen to be found anywhere online would it? Viewed with out piracy/law infringement? My limited understanding is that they only put the rules in their $40 books and whatnot.
   
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I was thinking of this: http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/t/Tauupdate.pdf

And I was mistaken; I'd thought the double missile pods had a skyfire option for some reason.

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