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 kestril wrote:
Mercenary Imperial guard.


Easily. IG, like other humans, constantly turn traitor for a wide variety of reasons. It's easy to imagine that an IG unit could decide that fighting for money is a lot better than being expended as suicide troops in the name of the Emperor, with or without chaos corruption being involved. And it's equally easy to imagine them finding plenty of buyers for their services, especially in areas on the edge of Imperial control where even incidents that aren't forgotten entirely take ages to be dealt with. After all, the thought that centuries later your descendents might finally be punished for treason is pretty irrelevant when you've got a war to win right now.

Loyalist, Emperor-loving Tau.


No. The Tau have a fundamental belief in their own destiny to rule the universe, with all non-Tau submitting to the Greater Good of Tau rule. I suppose you could make up some kind of excuse with "corrupted Ethereals" or whatever, but it goes directly against everything we know about the Tau (including the entire concept of their design and role in the fiction) and is far likely to fall into the "bad fanfiction" category than become a good story.

Space Marines that are not well, SPEESH MAHREENHS


No. Space marines exist for two reasons: to kill their enemies, and to produce propaganda for the Imperium*. The most you can get is chapters like the Ultramarines or Raptors that use sensible tactics to kill their enemies instead of blindly charging in with chainswords, but in the end they're still space marines. They kill stuff, and they do so at close range where they can be the GLORIOUS WARRIOR HEROES OF THE EMPEROR. Expecting them to be useful in diplomacy is about as sensible as expecting a nuclear missile to make a good diplomat.

*Overpriced elite infantry make no sense in a world of tanks, aircraft and orbital bombardments. The inevitable conclusion is that space marines exist primarily to be inspirational heroes in the propaganda that unites the Imperium, with their actual effectiveness in battle being a distant secondary concern.

Peaceful, noble orcs.


It depends.

If you're doing it seriously, it goes directly against the entire concept of the orks. Like the Imperial Tau, the most likely result is bad fanfiction.

If you're doing it for comedy value, it could work. After all, orks are there to be comic relief, and a story about pacifist orks could be funny if done right.

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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Rookie Pilot





If you drop the religious bit the ultramarines kind of fit, as they are empire builders, once they have the planet they start rebuilding, setting up governments and teaching. All though this isn't mentioned much that I can remember after the Hersey so wether they still do it that way o not I don't know

4th company 3000pts
3rd Navy drop Command 3000pts air cavalry
117th tank company 5500pts
2000pts 
   
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Brazil

Merc Guard: it is very fluff, not all traitor guard is chaos related, much of them are just bunchs of veterans with weapons, who got sick from receiving orders from ash holes, and decide to earn something with their skills. Rogue traders?

Tau Seeking the Emperor: ok, there is a point. It is hard to imagine this linked with official Imperial authority, but not hard to imagine in some outer worlds, where people dont hate xenos so much. If in some planets there are humans enjoying the greater good, or just chaos powers, i cannot see why some humans could not accept aliens who pledge their alegiances to the emperor...

Less over the top Space Marines: they alredy exist, IG Stormtroopers are exactly what space marines where in the first editions of 40k, the best of the humans, trained at their best, with the best equipments, and the best skills, but yet only humans. And there is the Sister of Battle, for the other side of the spectrum you presented...

Peacefull Orkz: not impossible. not likely. NOT FUN AT ALL!!! What is the point about greenskins who dont want to make Waaaaagh!!!

If my post show some BAD spelling issues, please forgive-me, english is not my natural language, and i never received formal education on it...
My take on Demiurgs (enjoy the reading):
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/537654.page
Please, if you think im wrong, correct me (i will try to take it constructively). 
   
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The Dwarf Wolf wrote:
Tau Seeking the Emperor: ok, there is a point. It is hard to imagine this linked with official Imperial authority, but not hard to imagine in some outer worlds, where people dont hate xenos so much. If in some planets there are humans enjoying the greater good, or just chaos powers, i cannot see why some humans could not accept aliens who pledge their alegiances to the emperor...


Yeah, but the question is why the Tau are worshiping the emperor in the first place when one of the most fundamental principles of the Tau design is their belief that the Tau are inherently superior and destined to rule a universe united under the Greater Good. They're pragmatic enough to accept an alliance with the Imperium (or various smaller factions within the Imperium) if it advances the cause of the Greater Good, but actual worship of the emperor would mean abandoning one of the most important parts of their identity as Tau. In other words, not going to happen.

There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. 
   
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Wing Commander






 -Loki- wrote:
 Anfauglir wrote:
 st2me wrote:

Who in the hell would want peaceful Orkz then they wouldn't be any fun!!


You kidding!? It would be hilarious. My favourite idea out of the bunch. By far.


Pride and Prejudice and Orks.


Great WAAAGHspectations.

Homebrew Imperial Guard: 1222nd Etrurian Lancers (Winged); Special Air-Assault Brigade (SAAB)
Homebrew Chaos: The Black Suns; A Medrengard Militia (think Iron Warriors-centric Blood Pact/Sons of Sek) 
   
 
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