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 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 GalacticZ wrote:

 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
Regarding newest rumors from few days ago:

"We have some Black Templar Rumors that may be giving them an update (albeit a White Dwarf one) sometime by summer of 2013. Exciting news for the Templar fans out there.
Earlier this year I was told that Black Templars would be getting the White Dwarf treatment aka like Sisters of Battle. Then earlier this month Robin Cruddace teased everyone a little bit by not confirming or denying they would get folded into the next Space Marine codex.

So after doing a bit of investigating I want to confirm that Black Templars are still on track for the White Dwarf treatment by summer 2013 at the latest. Now I do have one caveat: it could very well mean they are getting an “update” not a White Dwarf codex, but all I am hearing is a two issue White Dwarf codex to bring them in-line with 6th edition."

Many are speculating now that it seem that GW will dump the Templars and just integrate them into Codex: Space Marines. Even if they are Astartes army they are to unique to be integrated in vanilla codex in my opinion, they are after all horde Space Marine army.
So what are your opinions about this issue?

Templars are not a unique army. None of the additional SM Chapters are. They play EXACTLY like every other chapter with just a few discrepancies. I think all SM Chapters should be consolidated into a single book. The entire hobby would be better for it.

Pray tell, what Codices do you think fund the less profitable releases? And, for that matter, how does consolidating every single Marine Codex INCREASE diversity? You'd have loads of people suddenly spamming the same stuff from the same Codex without any kind of variation in competetive lists whatsoever.

First off, If gamesworkshop supported the so called 'niche' codices (They are only considered as such due to the lack of support GW shows for them), as much as they do the 100 different SM codices, maybe their sales would be more balanced and they wouldn't have to funnel their efforts into a few books to keep their company afloat; like they need any help keeping afloat with their massive profit margins as they are.

Secondly, Creating a NEW book for each SM Chapter doesn't create diversity either. It just makes it so there are a number of up-to-date powerful armies that all play the same vs a bunch of diverse niche armies that are out of date and cannot truly compete. So Rehauling the Space Marines chapters into a single books means several things. All the SM players that have favorite chapters get to field the armies they want without waiting 6 years for GW to waste time on their book. And all the other players who have 'niche' armies get more support and efforts provided their armies without having to wait more than a freakin decade.

Face it, the entire hobby would be better off if there was a SINGLE SM book.

/thread.

I'd like to see Templars keep their dex. BA is the one that could most easily be rolled up with SM.

That being said, fluff aside, BT could be done well in 15 pages.

I really wish that we'd see BA, SM, and BT in an HH style codex. Where you can build almost any chapter, but the separate entries at the back let you enhance it to a Codex 1st/2nd Founding chapter.

Personally I would go for two Space Marines Codexes:

Codex Space Marines which is play on words
covering The Ultramarines and other "Codex" chapters

Codex Astartes: Which covers all other Chapters with the unual rules and such like - Space Wolves, etc.

Then we get proper Codexes for

Adepta Sororitas
Adeptus Mechanicus
Imperial Agents - an Allies book.