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Yes, very awesome and not making the wait any easier. Still, I'm happy I went in for 120 of the stormtroopers (plus lots of other stuff).
As far as them looking too "clean" and/or "high tech," the Elysians and Mordians would like a word.

Still can't wait to see what you can do for an Eisenkern tank (you did mention they have a medium tank).

Awesome work, to say the least!

I saw the KS update and immediately started linking friends to it, whether they're wargamers or not, and every agrees they're cool.

I do think Breotan makes a solid point about overall look, but I think Mark has it right that it's easier to make something look beat up from being new than make something look new from being beat up. None of this makes the wait any shorter though; I'm just glad that I will have a nice fat addition to Mount Plasticrack soon.

 Grundz wrote:
Hey mark, looks AWESOME!
I know i'm going to have a problem painting any of them when I'm so busy posing them all >.> lol

Lol, you can tell I never paint a damn thing even when I should, I just never make the time, that and my painting skills are.....lacking....


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 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Dammit Mark, you are not making this wait any easier.

Sorry Moustaffa, these have been sitting on my desk for a week while I grind away at CAD files. I needed a break from that so I spent some time this weekend to have a little fun.

Mark, you have done it again I now whine because I got all mine coming with wave 3. Damn, sad gamer now the shots look great can not wait till wave 3 releases all I can do is stare at resin leviathan till his brothers get here.

 NoseGoblin wrote:

 Grundz wrote:
Hey mark, looks AWESOME!
I know i'm going to have a problem painting any of them when I'm so busy posing them all >.> lol

Lol, you can tell I never paint a damn thing even when I should, I just never make the time, that and my painting skills are.....lacking....

suggestion: airbrush for your base color/shading, then transparent paints to get other colors, its such cheating!

Grundz- What do you mean by transparent paints? I'm about to get an airbrush and if there are cheater methods using it I'd love to read about it.

Particularly I've been wondering since you can get a nice shaded basecoat with the airbrush, but then what to do on top of it that won't just cover up your nice shading?

So, if you can point me towards what you're talking about with "transparent paints" I'd appreciate it

Also, I think Mark's models will lend themselves VERY well to airbrushing.

 RiTides wrote:
Grundz- What do you mean by transparent paints? I'm about to get an airbrush and if there are cheater methods using it I'd love to read about it.

Particularly I've been wondering since you can get a nice shaded basecoat with the airbrush, but then what to do on top of it that won't just cover up your nice shading?

So, if you can point me towards what you're talking about with "transparent paints" I'd appreciate it

Also, I think Mark's models will lend themselves VERY well to airbrushing.

basically yes, you do the base coat really nice in a neutral color like black -> gunmetal -> steel -> mythril, and then use washes or transparent paints to maintain the nice shadowy shading:

I used these: until michaels stopped carrying them, the colors are hit and miss but the transparent green looks fantastic over gold, and the red isn't bad, I know tamija (or whatever) has a series of transparent paints too but haven't tried them, I graduated to washes/inks instead.

http://www.tcpglobal.com/createx/transparent-colors.aspx

see my gallery for grey knights (troops = lots of this effect, then airbrushing the blue for the weapon glow) and vehicles (purposly cloudly coloring, then transparent black to shade the panels)

in reality, you base coat the mini's (takes maybe half an hour to do a squad good) and then coloring is really quick, because its really watery stuff it is really easy to clean up mistakes too!

Got it (what you're talking about) and I'll check it out, thanks

Yep, I'm hoping to learn how to paint flecktarn so I can camo-up my power armor germans properly!

failing that, gunmetal it is, but here's hoping i can do it properly.

I'd have just hazarded to say thin coats over a white primer, like water colour techniques. If you don't go too dilute, it would go pretty fast.

Why would they wear all that armor and not a helmet?

 RiTides wrote:
Grundz- What do you mean by transparent paints? I'm about to get an airbrush and if there are cheater methods using it I'd love to read about it.

This video by Les Bursley shows the technique quite well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jC2CYlmt09s&feature=em

 DarknessEternal wrote:
Why would they wear all that armor and not a helmet?

Because they are Bad Ass™.

As far as transparent paints, Reaper has six clear colors that might work, too.

 NoseGoblin wrote:

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 MrMoustaffa wrote:
Dammit Mark, you are not making this wait any easier.

Sorry Moustaffa, these have been sitting on my desk for a week while I grind away at CAD files. I needed a break from that so I spent some time this weekend to have a little fun.

What this entire thread translates into...

 NoseGoblin wrote:

HEY GUYS CHECK OUT ALL THESE AWESOME MINIS ON MY DESK THAT YOU WON'T BE GETTING TILL FEBRUARY! AREN'T THEY AMAZING? DON'T YOU WANT THEM? LIKE. RIGHT. FRIGGIN. NOW. I MEAN, LOOK AT HOW AWESOME THEY ARE! SO GLAD I HAVE THESE RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME, IN MY HANDS, IN THE FLESH! MAN, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR THESE TILL FEBRUARY.

It's like taking a fat kid and dangling an entire German Chocolate cake over his head on a string and telling him he can have it in 3 hours. While you eat another one not 5 feet away and go "OH MY GOD THIS IS SOOOOOO GOOD! YOU'RE GOING TO LOVE THIS CAKE WHEN YOU GET TO EAT IT TOMORROW!"

You're an evil, evil man

*obviously this is all in jest. Loving the updates, can't wait to see these guys on my doorstep soon*

When will the stuff be finally for sale! i want that robot thingie!!!

Mark, any chance of doing a M.A.S.H. Accessory sprue? You could do a combat medic, a mule with the IV hanger, and bunches of injured body parts. You could also do a semi propped up body or one in a body bag being carried by the mule back to the retrieval site. Also a good chance for battle damaged parts for some. Not sure how many people would want it, but I'd love to convert one of my Ava's int a nurse.

Highest quality kits I've seen I think. Really looking forward to the stormtroopers arriving, even more than the leviathans. This is now the standard that I hold other kits up to.

Mark also has instructions for assembly on the www.dreamforge-games.blogspot.de website. How's how flexible the crusader is. I'm even more excited about that. Now I just need to figure out how to do the Cylon eye electronics for my crusader when it comes in.

Lol, Moustaffa . And thanks for all the tips, guys!

Theophony, aren't those instructions for the old resin Crusader, or are there updated ones for the plastic kit on there?

Theophony wrote:
Man, I want a refund.....from GW for all Yeh crap that I've bought from them over the years. Keep delivering stuff like this and we will definitely be the competition that GW has feared will arrive.

I agree, one of the main things keeping me away from using a majority of 3rd party miniatures is the fact that one of the only stores around me to play is a GW....but these excellent miniatures are making me want to start a whole army of them and throwing care to the wind.

When is the projected date for actually selling these and other Dreamforge models? For those of us who missed out on the KS, are you actually going to sell the product in the store or online or something?

The instructions are new, he just posted them on the 11th I believe. They show where all the articulated joints are. I can't wait to do a slideshow of my crusader dancing.

I hope im smart enough to put these guys together >.<

DarknessEternal wrote:Why would they wear all that armor and not a helmet?

The core trooper box set have the helmeted heads, as I was previewing the accessory pack I used the heads from that set. The reason for providing them was to allow for some variation and allow you to represent a Officer and NCO in your squad so that the miniatures are easily recognizable on the table.

Theophony wrote:Mark, any chance of doing a M.A.S.H. Accessory sprue? You could do a combat medic, a mule with the IV hanger, and bunches of injured body parts. You could also do a semi propped up body or one in a body bag being carried by the mule back to the retrieval site. Also a good chance for battle damaged parts for some. Not sure how many people would want it, but I'd love to convert one of my Ava's int a nurse.

Anything is possible! it all comes back to financial viability. If they sell like gang-busters I see no reason not to add more options... time will tell.

buckero0 wrote:When is the projected date for actually selling these and other Dreamforge models? For those of us who missed out on the KS, are you actually going to sell the product in the store or online or something?

General release will be sometime in February. Through DFG, Wargames Factory and eventually through all the major distributors to your FLGS.

ironicsilence wrote:I hope im smart enough to put these guys together >.<

You will do just fine If you can put together a Spes-Murheen, you can assemble these. The core troopers share the same configuration and number of parts, this is simply an add-on pack for more details such as packs and pouches and well as arm poses without hands so that you can combine those components for unique models.

im more concerned about putting the leviathans together, models are too cool looking to not take advantage of all sorts of fun things

Theophony wrote:
The instructions are new, he just posted them on the 11th I believe. They show where all the articulated joints are. I can't wait to do a slideshow of my crusader dancing.

Please do this

 RiTides wrote:

Theophony wrote:
The instructions are new, he just posted them on the 11th I believe. They show where all the articulated joints are. I can't wait to do a slideshow of my crusader dancing.

Please do this

I was originally joking, but now am tempted to put it together and have it either stomping a spes muhreen over and over, or hoping up and down on a rhino.

 NoseGoblin wrote:


General release will be sometime in February. Through DFG, Wargames Factory and eventually through all the major distributors to your FLGS.

Make it 11 February please, then i have a birthday excuse to order them!

Any shots of the Mule yet? This is one of the things I am looking forward to seeing the most!

Would you sell those m43 hat heads on a separate mini-sprue?