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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/14 03:51:39
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Not to worried about Angles, anything is possible, but as stated I wanted to know about direct on, flat surface.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2013/05/14 11:56:59
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/14 03:53:45
Subject: Re:Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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You can't say no. It is entirely possible for anything to get cover from anything else, depending on the right angles. And ADL could easily give a Defiler or Soulgrinder a cover save, it depends on if its covered 25% or not.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/14 06:21:05
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Irked Necron Immortal
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Voted "Unsure" but leaning towards "No."
It's hard to judge what 25% of a model is when it has a shape more complex then a box.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/15 01:10:29
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
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The view/angle on the picture in the original post is not even close to 25% obscured. Its 25% of the facing, not the height. You'd have to squat that Soulgrinder down ridiculously low to eek out 25% behind an ADL.
Really, not sure why the ADL is such a prerequisite for the 2+ cover save. Ruins on most tables are plentiful, and its not hard to obscure 25% behind a decent set of ruins.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/15 01:16:13
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Wraith
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Yea, angles, Pythagorean theorem, Side-Angle-Side,..
But really, No. Just No. The thing is massive. It has a 5++ and can get a better cover save, but try ruins, a skyshield, a bastion, etc.
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Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 12:03:40
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Based on the picture i would give him cover. It looks like he is 25% cover.
You check Cover from the PoV of the firer to determine cover for each shot.
Consensus does not equal correctness.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:32:15
Subject: Re:Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Just so everyone knows, you could have a penny give an Emperor Titan a cover save if the angles and distance was just right.
Anything could cover anything else, it all depends on the exact situation at the time the shooting attack is made.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:42:30
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
South Chicago burbs
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Exactly. A tau crisis suit is taller than a standard infantry model, so it would see more over the ADL. You can't just say soulfrinders get a save without knowing exactly what's shooting at it and how far away it might be. AKA check true LOS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 16:54:08
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Morphing Obliterator
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Stormbreed wrote:I'd like to see how people are playing it.
I've read a few tourney reports where they are saying NO, but also 1 more recent where they "Stacked 3 (33% each RIGHT?!) ADL walls up and hid the Defiler" to prove it covers more then 25%.
The defiler is smaller than the soul grinder, which means the defiler is on the edge of 25% cover so you might allow it to have it, but the soul grinder is an inch or more bigger so he doesn't get it. And since Defilers can't have daemon of... you can never get shrouded with him unless it comes from an external source
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 17:15:06
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Dakka Veteran
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Very nice TRI. That's a great example.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/05/16 20:47:31
Subject: Poll (Again(ish)) ADL and Defilers/Soul Grinder.
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Proud Phantom Titan
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Not sure if that's sarcasm ... Still, never did link to that other thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/360/511116.page
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