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 phatonic wrote:
Matt ward fluff.

What a surprising comment.

the fact that humanity is on its last legs....

GA

First place goes to the Inquisition for Exterminatus, because silencing a planet is really creepy when you think about it..

Second place goes to the Haemonculi covens.. Flesh crafting is a very creepy topic to go by..

I believe in terms of living out ones favorite sci-fi setting 40k firmly sits in the "Nope, I'm good" catigory. It is a really sucky place to live.

Servitors.So creepy and disgusting.What the hell Imperium?If your not dead you can't chill out with empy forever.

Imperial Deceit wrote:
The Void Dragon is one of my top contenders because of how insidious it is. Despite being forever imprisoned on Mars it continues to drain the souls of uncounted billions, literally anyone connected to the Mechanicus is actually being slowly consumed. The Void Dragon also supposedly is where the POTMS comes from. (In the lore basically every vehicle , device, or weapon has a Machine Spirit, not just Land Raiders)

That's a colossal crock, where the heck are you getting all this from?

Did you never read Mechanicus?

Imperial Deceit wrote:
Did you never read Mechanicus?

I read everything even remotely related to my favourite faction, and nowhere does it state that the Void Dragon is draining the souls of uncounted billions, that everyone remotely connected to the Mechanicus is being slowly consumed, or that the Void Dragon is the animating force behind Machine Spirits. Mechanicus is purposefully vague and lacking in specifics on what precisely the entity is, it is meant to suggest and pose "what if?" questions, not form the basis for absolute factual statements like your post.

Within the Dark Eldar, the Haemonculi and their minions. I think that many of the wracks volunteer to become transformed is a little disturbing.

What the Inquisition does is necessary. And while since the passing of the Sigillite they have become fractured and certainly have some overzealous members, they're nothing compared to the witch hunters of the Ecclesiarchy.

Daemonculaba was pretty gross. So was Kurze skinning children alive on global vox/pict feeds to deter jaywalking among the population.

I'll have to agree with the ones siding with the IoM, it is truly disturbing in its vastness and inhumanity. It takes away the freedome of a whole planet's population to make warmachines and soldiers and destroys entire planets either in war, to punish a few of the inhabitants or simply by living on it. It has had 38 000 years to evolve from now and in many cases it's worse of then we are now. That is truly scary.

The DE are also scary but they are xenos and to try to fathom what goes on in their minds is impossible. And due to their culture they are sruck in the situation they are in, their craftworld kin and exodites does probably not want to have them every DE move there and without spirit stones the only way to avoid she who thirsts is not to die. An art that they have perfected.

Have you ever read Angel Exterminatus? Basically it starts out with Fulgrim telling a rape joke and it just gets worse from there...

Thatguyoverthere11 wrote:
Have you ever read Angel Exterminatus? Basically it starts out with Fulgrim telling a rape joke and it just gets worse from there...

Can we see a quote?

Anougher thing that disturbs me greatly about 40k backround is the sheer inneffecicy of the Imperium. Mankind would probally rule the stars unchallenged if they could get there act together and become more efficient. For example the size of their capital ships are ridiculasly huge and expensive in both resouces and manpower. If they went with smaller more manuverable capital ships they could build more faster. Also they need to figure out how to use long range communication reliably that does not rely on the warp same with travel. But that would require an envirement that would welcome innovation and not stagnation.

 starraptor wrote:
Anougher thing that disturbs me greatly about 40k backround is the sheer inneffecicy of the Imperium. Mankind would probally rule the stars unchallenged if they could get there act together and become more efficient. For example the size of their capital ships are ridiculasly huge and expensive in both resouces and manpower. If they went with smaller more manuverable capital ships they could build more faster. Also they need to figure out how to use long range communication reliably that does not rely on the warp same with travel. But that would require an envirement that would welcome innovation and not stagnation.

Well, it is almost impossible to the IoM to do most of those things, specially FTL communications and travel. As for smaller ships, they already have things like that in the form of escort ships, and they are incapable of fighting bigger ships by themselves.

Probably the Chaos gods. Immensely powerful, lovecraftian emotion gods out to corrupt the galaxy to their own twisted, self-destructive mindset. It's disturbing how lot of basic emotions, such as anger or hope, feed them. And how any mortal who joins them is eventually going to be overloaded by their patron god's schtick, becoming constantly restless beserkers, rampant hedonists dulled to all but the greatest excesses, obessive schemers probably destined to die in the scheme of another schemer or a virulently decaying bag of disease. Bar gaining a given god's favour, it really seems like there's no good end for a person when dealing with them.

And ultimately, there is no easy way to destroy them. Certainly not with the relatively conventional methods the Imperium is currently using.

What disturbs me most about 40k? Is this anything near an accurate representation of what humanity will become? Who knows. If so the horrible truth is that we are better extinct.


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On a less serious note. Their stupidity! I mean come on! Why send it thousands of imperial guardsmen and titans when you can just send in a single space marine, not even a captain...in fact hell just send in Draigo. Don't worry. He will win...

I would have to say the harlequin's kiss. I mean, there's a lot of horrible stuff, and a lot of 'big picture' things, but man, what a way to go.

I dunno, I have never been legitimately grossed out by 40k.

One moment that I did find shocking (Albeit in a way that just made me laugh uncontrollably) was in The Mirror Crack'd, where Fulgrim is being tortured by the highest ranking members of his legion. One jams a device into his fething penis, and the spike basically opens up like a sort of umbrella, and he manipulates it painfully, which makes Fulgrim practically orgasm several times, and then, when Fulgrim decides to break free of his restraints, he grabs the device, and rips his own pecker off, before shuddering, and saying that he was beginning to enjoy that.

 phatonic wrote:
Matt ward fluff.

Yeah, the misogyny and battle sister snuff porn aspects of it are pretty disturbing.

Fulgrim's robes getting blasted off his body by the force of a blastmaster cannon. Picturing a 10+ foot tall ripped body builder looking dude with long snow-whiet hair running around punching people's faces into mush while wearing nothing but a loin-cloth is pretty homo-erotically amazing.

What is creepy is how I need a flow chart to figure out the apparent "worth" of a person in that universe.

Imperium
- Emperor - needs about 1000 psykers to keep him alive but they are the "future" of humanity.
- Astronomicon choir member - like batteries, burn em out and replace as needed.
- Strong psycher - Potential Inquisition member or #1 threat or if not evaluated: lunch for prior mentioned emperor.
- Person exposed to demon: death, if in huge numbers like Armageddon: put into labor camps until dead.
- Space Marine exposed to demons: If "used to it" who work with Inquisition: carry on, if not,: mind wipe.
- Imperial guard exposed to demons: killed normally, mind wipe has been used but rare.
- A common theme for space marines and mechanicus: if a person fails in their recruitment, you are used as raw material for servitors.
- If you are a marine too important to lose, you can be put in a semi-dead state in a dreadnaught.
-Penal legion- you are meat for the machine and try to find forgiveness in death, exploding collars are also a cool trinket.
-Commissar: Main job is to ensure that those who are in command perform in an exemplary and unwavering fashion or BLAM! now commissar is in charge. If those in a squad try to run, execute one of them every single time.
- In summary, a quote from an Inquisitor on exterminatus: "Some may question your right to destroy ten billion people. Those who understand realise that you have no right to let them live!"

Eldar
- Better to kill thousands of humans to save one eldar.

Dark Eldar
- Better to allow the human to feel a thousand deaths than allow it's death (and not even then).
- When the mind is broken (playtime/feeding over), then then they get to play with the flesh.
- If you concentrate a specific essence of millions of humans, you get something equivalent of a middling vintage wine in DE tastes.

Orks
-Great to kill umi, better if it fights!

Tyranids
- Food.

Necrons
- [old] good for making new necrons or flaying alive!, [new] good for flaying alive!, side note: Good to wear outer skin like a meat suit.

Tau
- Join us, the cool-aid is good, we accept all (warm bodies for the greater good!) Oh, you refused, ummm, ok, we will send in our beta negotiating team, maybe they will convince you (to die).

Demons
- Khorn; MOAHR skulls for the throne! (add one more to the pile)
- Nurgle: An uninfected body to play with? GLORIOUS! (each person is appreciated, to death)
-Slanesh: Let us see if we can get it to beg for us to go too far for it to live (plaything).
- Tzenitch: If I include it in a bit part of about 230 of my schemes with a final central ending resulting in betrayal and death, that would be pleasing (overused chess piece).

Chaos
- Slaves are always appreciated, cannot expect the masters of the future to do all the work...
- They make great raw material for experiments or some new elixir.
- Sometimes when you really want your god's attention in a hurry, sacrificing a few hundred thousand does the trick.

Think that summarizes the attitude: Life is cheap but at least it has some worth...

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Fulgrim's robes getting blasted off his body by the force of a blastmaster cannon. Picturing a 10+ foot tall ripped body builder looking dude with long snow-whiet hair running around punching people's faces into mush while wearing nothing but a loin-cloth is pretty homo-erotically amazing.

Or how about Magnus the Red getting a sponge bath from his legion. A 17 foot tall bronze-skinned demigod having his bulging thighs and rippling pectorals lathered gently and lovingly by seven foot tall supermen while Magnus wears nothing but, you guessed it, a loincloth.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

 BlaxicanX wrote:
Fulgrim's robes getting blasted off his body by the force of a blastmaster cannon. Picturing a 10+ foot tall ripped body builder looking dude with long snow-whiet hair running around punching people's faces into mush while wearing nothing but a loin-cloth is pretty homo-erotically amazing.

Or how about Magnus the Red getting a sponge bath from his legion. A 17 foot tall bronze-skinned demigod having his bulging thighs and rippling pectorals lathered gently and lovingly by seven foot tall supermen while Magnus wears nothing but, you guessed it, a loincloth.

Haha, I am re-reading The Primarchs right now and I have forgotten the level of depravity those stories have in them. But Fulgrim easily takes the cake as creep of the universe. I can't help but imagine the Pharaoh-god from Stargate. Makes your skin crawl, hahaa.

Please tell me that bit about Magnus the Red is a joke? Please?

No, all of what I said happened in A Thousand Sons. I just may or may not be leaving out some context, lol.

It's amazing he didn't ask Ahriman to plait his hair for him.

Ahriman was busy sitting on his face.

Magnus and his favorites.

I think I am more disturbed by the reactions of the fanbase... as you were... backing away making no eye contact...

 Omegus wrote:
Ahriman was busy sitting on his face.

Magnus and his favorites.

Hahahahahahahahaaaaaaaa!!!

So much of what I'm currently reading in Ahriman In Exile now makes perfect sense ...