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nosferatu1001 wrote:
I think they meant 2nd ed termies, with Ass. Cannons and Cyclones.

That was never 'obviously wrong' though... it was a legitimate codex option up until GW decided that it was too over-powered and erratad it.

 insaniak wrote:
That doesn't change the fact that an agreed limit is a limit.

100% this^

0 points over is acceptable.

When two people agree upon a points limit, both should have enough respect to make their list equal to or less than the agreed upon limit.

1 point over is breaking the agreement, and disrespecting your opponent.

If you are over, it should be no big deal to drop something to make your list come in at or under the agreed upon points limit, and this should be done well before you are about to deploy.

I make lists that come to the points limit without going over. Then I tweak them and re-make them to shuffle things around without going over the limit that we have agreed upon.

If I am expected to make a list at or below the limit we have agreed upon, then I ask my opponent to adhere to the agreement as well. It is just common courtesy to do so.

DutchSage wrote:or have your team be with 12 guys at soccer?

In American football, that's "12 men on the field, 5 yard penalty, repeat the down". I'd let my opponent go over points if his guys had to start five yards from the table. I reckon I'd have plenty of time to get to the objectives unhindered.