We wrote:Ok just getting back into the game and I have played 3 games so far with 6th ed. rules. I really haven't played since 3rd ed. (and mostly played 2nd edition and
RT) but so far all three games have taken all day, ie. 3 hours or more. First game was 750 points and 2 hours, 2nd game 1500 points and 5 hours and 3rd game now was 2000 points and after 3.5 hours i just gave up at the end of turn 2 - i just don't have the time or patience to spend my entire Sunday playing with plastic soldiers anymore.
Every unit, every weapon has a special rule that needs to be looked up. The Table of Contents and Index in the Rule book and Codex are horrible and don't list half the stuff you need to find. I roll a ton of dice, i reroll a bunch of dice, then i roll some more dice. Then my opponent rolls a crap load of dice then he rerolls some more dice. All this for 1 or two guys to die. The number of times I just agreed to a ruling because I couldn't bear to drag the game out one moment longer was staggering.
Are we just slow noobs or does the game really take this long? Have I just been spoiled by other better game systems I have been playing in the last few years? I want to be in and out of a game in 2 hours, including setup. I find this game nowhere near as fun as I remember. So far games have been as fun as stabbing myself in the eye - so please help me speed up my game (2 hours or less) and convince me the game will get fun if I stick with it. Or at the very least convince me to run away and never look back!
It's mostly the fact that you have to keep looking up rules. I know when we played our first 6th Edition games at my
FLGS, we were just kind of floundering back and forth through the rulebook trying to figure out whether the rules for something had changed. Subsequently, we took several hours to play even small point games, all because of needing to look things up. Honestly, once you've got the rules (mostly) memorized, it won't be a problem. It seems like a tall order, I know, but just read through the book once or twice (just the rules portion, not the fluff) and play a few games. You'll get things moving a lot faster once you can play without needing to consult the book.
For the record, even our last week of our league, which was 2500 points each, it took each set of players around 3 hours to play, and that's including getting pairings and doing all the setup stuff.