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2014/01/23 14:33:24
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
gorgon wrote: Everyone said that about Athens, and that went off without a hitch.
Unless you count $1 billion in security measures (for a huge crowd that didn't show) that helped the country's decline into bankruptcy a "hitch".
The entire Olympic enterprise needs a radical rethinking, IMO.
Not really. Basically any country is free to apply for the Olympics if they want, and to date there's never been a shortage of countries. And there's no shortage because the Olympics, if done well, is a huge benefit to the host nation. The value to Australia from the Sydney Olympics in exposure and tourism in subsequent years was worth many times what was paid for the Games, while Beijing basically transformed the way people saw China - now no-one doubted their ability to undertake major national scale projects.
In contrast, you get debacles like Athens. The trick being that it isn't 'Olympics are bad', but 'well run purposeful Olympics are good, poorly administered Olympics with no connection to an overall national objective are bad'.
I have no idea how the Winter Olympics fits in to any of that. I mean, speed skating and ice hockey are fun but most of the sports just leaving me scratching my head. Do that many people really travel to a city to watch people bobsled? Do people watch it on TV? Is is just that Australia has so little snow that we basically don't care, or is that indifference reflected in other countries?
The Montreal games in 1976 were a financial disaster that damaged the Canadian economy, the Los Angeles games in 1984 turned in a hefty profit.
Recent games have made small profits or broke even but had infrastructure benefits. London 2012 only broke even, but paid for itself after upgrading the sports infrastructure in the city was taken into account. It thus did London a lot of good.
Orlanth wrote: How does a 'suicide bomber' get a reputation, with nickname et al, excepting a posthumous one.
'Black Widow' is a nickname given to the widows of militants who go on to take part in suicide attacks themselves. The name is not unique to her.
Ok, understood. Good recruiting ploy.
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2014/01/23 14:45:56
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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2014/01/23 15:29:55
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
Seaward wrote: I quite enjoy the winter Olympics. The men's ice hockey final last go 'round was epic, for example, despite the communists' victory.
Canada is communist? They got the gold last time.
The joke being that anyone not 'Murica is a dirty Commie
And when it comes to winter olympic sports, I'm a fan of hockey, speed skating, and the various sledding disciplines.... Skeleton is the oddest though, as it was (IIRC) Robin Williams who put it "jam an ice skate up your arse, slide down the slide and do kegels"
2014/01/23 16:14:18
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
I wonder If I made a joke about Americans dying in car related terrorism it would go over as well.
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2014/01/23 16:24:11
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
I kinda don't care about the Olympics in general... except Hockey (because the NHL shuts down for like... 2 goddamned weeks).... and Skeleton and Luge (because people die), and Bobsledding because its kinda like Skeleton and Luge, but with Jamaicans.
So I guess that makes me a Winter Olympics kinda guy.
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2014/01/23 16:58:24
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
If it's cold enough could we host the Olympics there? Weiner Security will prevent any shenanigans
The List would be a good deal different.
Instead of ice skating: ice kickboxing
Instead of the luge and bobsled type events we would have downhill avalanche survival, and long distance hot tubbing
The only X games that are permitted would be those that include random snipers or old guys popping out screaming about the young punks getting off his lawn.
Curling would be mandatory. Replace the stones with wiener dogs.
Also the new Olympic event: wiener dog snow tunneling, and of course BEERFEST.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/01/23 17:37:15
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
Instead of ice skating: ice kickboxing
Instead of the luge and bobsled type events we would have downhill avalanche survival, and long distance hot tubbing
The only X games that are permitted would be those that include random snipers or old guys popping out screaming about the young punks getting off his lawn.
Curling would be mandatory. Replace the stones with wiener dogs.
Also the new Olympic event: wiener dog snow tunneling, and of course BEERFEST.
Sold!!!! Where do I sign up?
2014/01/23 17:39:25
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
The terrorists have already won. This is a picture from Sochi.
Frazzled wrote: Frankly I can't stand the whole concept of winter Olympics. Its all Rich Man's sports at a Rich Man's resort. A pox on both their houses.
All elite sport is for the rich.
Ever notice how the highest ranked countries in the Summer Games aren't the biggest countries in the world, but the ones with the largest GDPs? China's rise up the Summer Olympics very closely ties to their economic ascent, just as Russia's fall down the board ties to their economic descent.
Sport ain't fair, but then life isn't fair. The only solution is to do your best to get born in a rich country.
And then once you're born in a rich country, and you're sitting there watching tv on your giant plasma, I have no idea why anyone would keep it on the channel showing people sitting on a bobsled going down a long tube. Or the skiing, oh my god there's like 50 different kinds and near as I can tell they all involved going left to right to left to right over and over again.
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Orlanth wrote: The Montreal games in 1976 were a financial disaster that damaged the Canadian economy, the Los Angeles games in 1984 turned in a hefty profit.
Recent games have made small profits or broke even but had infrastructure benefits. London 2012 only broke even, but paid for itself after upgrading the sports infrastructure in the city was taken into account. It thus did London a lot of good.
Exactly, whether the games are an overall benefit for your country or not depends on whether hosting the games makes sense given national objectives, and whether you do a good job of organising them.
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2014/01/24 03:04:40
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
Damn I can have dinner in there. Its "clean". Once you get use to Port A Potties nothing fazes you
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And the guy taking the pic. Well dressed Hombre
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2014/01/24 05:17:18
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
sebster wrote: The terrorists have already won. This is a picture from Sochi.
But then people of the same sex will see each other's baby making bits. Does that promote homosexuality? Should the architect be jailed now under the new law? What about the builders too??
2014/01/24 06:05:08
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
sebster wrote: The terrorists have already won. This is a picture from Sochi.
But... But... I can't use that toilet! I can't go in front of other people! I get performance anxiety!
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2014/01/24 10:13:20
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
I dont see whats the point about highlighting the double toilet. Not here because we do so because other do so, but in the press in general.
Sloppy construction resulted in not enough space for a dividing wall, so the jobsworths who built it carried on regardless.
How the feth does that condemn the whole of Russia?
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2014/01/24 10:21:03
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
Orlanth wrote: I dont see whats the point about highlighting the double toilet. Not here because we do so because other do so, but in the press in general.
Sloppy construction resulted in not enough space for a dividing wall, so the jobsworths who built it carried on regardless.
How the feth does that condemn the whole of Russia?
Because if they weren't commies they would have had enough building materials, obviously. And they would have been able to pay someone competent to do the design. Duh.
I wish I had time for all the game systems I own, let alone want to own...
2014/01/24 10:55:14
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
Reports claimed there was only 1 toilet paper holder though, so it teaches delicate negotiation skills too.
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2014/01/24 12:56:12
Subject: Re:We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
sebster wrote: The terrorists have already won. This is a picture from Sochi.
Frazzled wrote: Frankly I can't stand the whole concept of winter Olympics. Its all Rich Man's sports at a Rich Man's resort. A pox on both their houses.
All elite sport is for the rich.
Ever notice how the highest ranked countries in the Summer Games aren't the biggest countries in the world, but the ones with the largest GDPs? China's rise up the Summer Olympics very closely ties to their economic ascent, just as Russia's fall down the board ties to their economic descent.
Sport ain't fair, but then life isn't fair. The only solution is to do your best to get born in a rich country.
While I agree with the above thats not my intent. There are many summer events that normal people participate in. I bike, the wife and kids run and play tennis. I box, belly flop into the pool etc. etc.
Winter sports. Absent yankees skating on ponds or such aint nobody does this as a pastime unless they are rich to being with. Aint nobody from the Fort Apache going skiing.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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2014/01/24 14:16:59
Subject: We like the cars, the cars that go boom. We're the Sochi Olympics and we like the boom.
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