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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:15:56
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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whembly wrote:The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...
That makes absolutely no sense. It's like claiming that there's no point in reporting the murder of your entire family because one time a cop let some guy go with a warning for going 5 mph over the speed limit, so obviously people just get away with crimes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:17:27
Subject: Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Yeah, he wasnt even showing the porn to students, just co-workers. While he violated rules, he did nothing morally reprehensible like the lady above
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:19:31
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...
That makes absolutely no sense. It's like claiming that there's no point in reporting the murder of your entire family because one time a cop let some guy go with a warning for going 5 mph over the speed limit, so obviously people just get away with crimes.
In a black & white world you're right.
But, we don't live in that world...
As a student, if you know/see an authority figure that is "getting away" with something in school, that makes it less likely that they'll get reported.
How is this such a different concept to understand? Automatically Appended Next Post: hotsauceman1 wrote:Yeah, he wasnt even showing the porn to students, just co-workers. While he violated rules, he did nothing morally reprehensible like the lady above
Wasn't equating the two...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:23:02
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...
That makes absolutely no sense. It's like claiming that there's no point in reporting the murder of your entire family because one time a cop let some guy go with a warning for going 5 mph over the speed limit, so obviously people just get away with crimes.
That's not what he's saying. Really he's just reference a basic aspect of psychology. People in authority over you appear powerful (he cited an example). People are naturally disinclined to challenge authority even when something improper or illegal is happening. Especially the young who already feel disenfranchised as a nautral part of growing up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:23:47
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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LordofHats wrote: Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...
That makes absolutely no sense. It's like claiming that there's no point in reporting the murder of your entire family because one time a cop let some guy go with a warning for going 5 mph over the speed limit, so obviously people just get away with crimes.
That's not what he's saying. Really he's just reference a basic aspect of psychology. People in authority over you appear powerful (he cited an example). People are naturally disinclined to challenge authority even when something improper or illegal is happening. Especially the young who already feel disenfranchised as a nautral part of growing up.
^^^ yeah... exactly it. Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:53:02
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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She didn't get an admission out of her though? (Not from what I could hear)
It'll be interesting what the Teachers lawyers have to say about this. I'm not sticking up for the teacher but I thik the student may have gone about this the wrong way and won't get the results she wanted. Then again she might have already got the results she wanted.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/23 18:57:03
Subject: Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Secret Force Behind the Rise of the Tau
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"I would involve law enforcement," the woman said.
"So how is that any different from what you did" years ago, Jamie said.
"It's not," the woman replied.
"Do you realize that you brainwashed me, and you manipulated me, and that what you did was wrong?" Jamie asked.
"Yes. And I regret it," the woman responded.
She never comes out and says 'I molested a minor' but the conversation makes it apparent that the teacher acknowledges it happened.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 03:18:07
Subject: Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Maybe the teacher isn't escaping prosecution after all
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/23/us/california-alleged-teacher-abuse/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
(CNN) -- A second woman in Southern California is alleging sexual abuse by a teacher who resigned last week after being confronted by another alleged female victim on a YouTube video, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
The second alleged victim filed a complaint accusing the Val Verde Unified School District of negligence when the girl, then a 14-year-old middle schooler, was allegedly sexually abused by the teacher during the 2009-2010 school year, the complaint said.
The woman, who appeared at a press conference with her attorney on Thursday, is now 18 years old.
"This should have never happened, and I don't wish this upon anybody. My mother was the first victim by convincing my mother that she would do great in my life, and she turned my thinking that, that all I need was her," the woman told reporters.
"There was a lot of manipulation in the time. This should of never happened if the district would of done their job," she added.
The claim seeks unspecified monetary damages and charges that the school district "knew about (the teacher's) propensity to sexually abuse and/or sexually harass students before the claimant was injured and damaged by being sexually molested."
Officials with the school district, based in Perris, about 65 miles east of downtown Los Angeles, declined to comment on the allegations.
"We are not making any comments but we did receive a claim. We are cooperating with authorities," said Chris Wynn, chief of security.
The girl has also filed a complaint against the nearby Riverside Unified School District for "negligently" providing "positive information" about the teacher when she applied for a job with Val Verde. The teacher once worked for the Riverside school system.
Riverside school officials acknowledged the claim.
"We did receive the claim, but we are not commenting," said spokeswoman Jacquie Paul.
The teacher has not responded to CNN's phone and e-mail requests for comment.
The educator resigned Friday from her most recent job as an administrator with the Alhambra Unified School District after a woman, now 28, posted a YouTube video in which she accused the educator of abusing her at age 12.
The video features the alleged victim on camera and the teacher's voice on a phone. In the video, the teacher can be heard acknowledging the abuse.
In that case, police have launched an investigation, but the statute of limitations may be an issue, Riverside police Lt. Guy Toussaint said. It all depends on what the investigation reveals and what crimes may have occurred.
On Thursday, the Riverside Police Department confirmed a second alleged victim in their investigation into the educator.
"On January 17, RPD started our initial investigation from the YouTube video. During the investigation during some point a second victim came forward and the detectives are now looking into the second victim's allegations. And at this point it's an ongoing investigation," said Lt. Val Graham of Riverside Police Department.
The alleged second victim's attorney, Luis A. Carrillo of South Pasadena, said he and the girl will speak with Riverside police on Friday to file a formal complaint about the alleged sexual abuse.
"We are cooperating with the investigation and that's why she can't speak about the details about what happened," Carrillo said. "Something good has to come out of something bad, and that what we want changes, positive changes in the law."
The first alleged victim said the abuse took place "off and on" between the ages of 12 and 18. She said she didn't come forward as a teenager because the teacher had brainwashed her.
"She told me that my family didn't love me. She told me that nobody cared about me and that she was the only one that loved me and the only one that was there for me," she said. "She made me believe that she was my only friend, and that I could trust her."
She said she didn't want a physical relationship, but the teacher threatened her multiple times.
"She said that she would kill herself if I ever left. And I believed that," she said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/01/24 05:23:03
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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The Dread Evil Lord Varlak
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whembly wrote:In a black & white world you're right.
But, we don't live in that world...
As a student, if you know/see an authority figure that is "getting away" with something in school, that makes it less likely that they'll get reported.
How is this such a different concept to understand?
So the alternative is to permanently fire every single teacher who commits even the most minor infraction? Because otherwise students might get disenfranchised and assume that serious offences like molesting students won't get punished?
That seems a really long bow to draw.
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Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 12:07:55
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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As an update, the teacher has been charged.
source.
Ex-School Administrator Faces Sex Crimes Charges After YouTube Allegations
A 40-year-old woman was charged with having illegal sexual contact with two underage girls while she was a teacher and school administrator in Southern California, prosecutors said on Monday.
Andrea Michelle Cardosa has been charged with 16 felony counts, including aggravated sexual assault on a child under the age of 14, lewd acts on a child under the age of 14, and six counts of lewd acts on a child 14 or 15 years of age while the defendant is at least 10 years older than the victim, according to the Riverside County District Attorney's Office.
Cardosa could face life in prison if convicted, officials said.
She was arrested on a $5 million warrant at 5:45 p.m. in the city of Perris by a Riverside County sheriff’s warrant team, officials said.
The case involving Cardosa came to light in January after Jane Doe 1, who is now an adult, found out that Cardosa was a school administrator at Alhambra High School in Los Angeles County and called Cardosa.
That call was both video and audio taped, and the alleged victim posted the taped conversation on YouTube.
Riverside detectives then began an investigation into the allegations that Cardosa had illegal sexual contact with Jane Doe 1 while the victim was a student at a middle school in the city of Riverside and continued while she was in high school.
The crimes involving Jane Doe 1 allegedly occurred from 1997 to 2001.
Within days of posting of the video on YouTube, Jane Doe 2 – also an adult – came forward to report that she also had been victimized by Cardosa when she was a student at a high school in Perris in 2009 or 2010, prosecutors said.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 13:13:53
Subject: Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Blood Angel Captain Wracked with Visions
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Hopefully they throw the book at her. Thank you for the update
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 13:46:48
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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whembly wrote: Peregrine wrote: whembly wrote:The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...
That makes absolutely no sense. It's like claiming that there's no point in reporting the murder of your entire family because one time a cop let some guy go with a warning for going 5 mph over the speed limit, so obviously people just get away with crimes.
In a black & white world you're right.
But, we don't live in that world...
As a student, if you know/see an authority figure that is "getting away" with something in school, that makes it less likely that they'll get reported.
How is this such a different concept to understand?
Because you are talking about a justice system suitable for a black and white world.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 14:18:06
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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5th God of Chaos! (Ho-hum)
Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/04 15:30:05
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As an update to the story, looks like this teacher will be getting charged with sexual assault charges, and that the statute of limitations doesn't apply to this case. Someone else also came forward about being abused by this teacher.
The shocking case against Cardosa first came to light after a now 28-year-old Jamie Carrillo posted a video on YouTube showing her making a call to confront Cardosa about the abuse allegations that she said began when she was 12.
Carrillo said that she chose to publicly reveal the alleged crimes against Cardosa the way she did because she believed that a statute of limitations — with the abuse allegedly taking place more than 13 years ago — would prevent the former educator from being criminally charged.
But according to the district's Senior Public Information Specialist John Hall, because the five counts of aggravated sexual assault on a child carry potential life sentences, a statute of limitations does not apply.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/02/05 02:02:17
Subject: Re:Ex-student calls teacher over alleged sex abuse, posts talk on YouTube
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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you got ninja'd brah.
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