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**Peregrine**

Your math is wrong. BSP + swarm tactics is 16 points, 21 of them would be 336 points.

**KnuckleWolf**

How astute. It was past three in the morning when I posted, give me a break LOL. He did say a game of 600-800pts, apparently in my gleeful exploration of how can I break this I went to the higher point cost available option.

336
+20 points for Howl with swarm
+31 for Vader with swarm
+12 Academy
399

**Kai**

the 75 point list that just crushed all comers was a han shoots first with a b wing escort. the tie spam that usually just mauls han shoots first to death couldn't get enough tie fighters to do the damage before they got beaten down. the other list i thought would take down all comers was 3 grey squadron pilots w/ ion cannon turrets, but the yt1300 needing 2 ion tokens before it has to fly straight made it impossible to force off of the board, and it's 360 arc kept it from not being able to shoot when it did have to fly in a straight line.

i also got to play a truely epic game of x wing this week, 1000 points to a side, single player. we could pull any trick we wanted out of the book. we also had a senario sort of play going. each side had 4 turbo lasers (as per the cr90 upgrade) that fired from fixed positions on their board edge. It was to represent the capitol ships we were fighting between. We were also using a local rule we've been having fun with, explosions. we painted up several asteroids to look like explosions, and each time a ship is destroyed, you put a small or large explosion token down. at the end of each players turn, they remove all of the explosions they place during teir previous turn. explosions work just like any other asteroid while they are still on the board. I played the imperial side, i'll post a list if asked, but it was huge, using every model i had. epic.

**KnuckleWolf**

Interesting.
Proceed to be awesome.
All I'm going to say.

**TableTop Fan**

Whole new play style. Im pre-ordering one. Might get two if i like their cloaking. TIE Defender is still going to be my favorite one of wave 4.

**TableTop Fan**

KnuckleWolf wrote:
Sorry for the confusion, thought that was edited into the other post haha I jumped topic, my bad! I know we found in one 50pt game two Ion Y-wings was cheesy but whatever, still curious what broke at 75. As was mentioned, we couldn't do less than 90pts with out things getting funky, although I demo with the quick start rules at 25pts and under and that works. There's also an extended demo I do at 50pts that works well. But both those cases have pre-designed lists that are intentionally cheese-less.

Anywho! I was curious what a 600pt game would look like so i rushed to squadron builder and said okay, how is do? So the busted TIE swarm I mentioned above uses this list for a mock up squad that you can take with 400pts(399 actually, YEAH INITIATIVE! WHOOT!):
Darth Vader + Swarm Tactics
Howlrunner + Swarm Tactics
21x Black Squadron Pilots each with Swarm Tactics
and a lone Academy Pilot

Thanks to Swarm Tactics, at the start of combat you choose the order the swarm tactics resolve, so you have Vader buff Howlrunner to PS 9, who buffs a Black Squad to PS 9 since she has that PS now till end of turn, and then chain it to each other ship in your blob/formation, with the last ship to receive the buff being the glorious point-man, your lone Academy Pilot. TIP OF THE SPEAR! In total 24 batches of 2 dice all at PS 9 many of which will be Howlrunner buffed. This does work, it has been officially FAQ'd.

Edited: Numbers were confused. Hoo-ray for 3 AM posts

This...this is the most amazing TIE swarm list ever. Time to get started on this list now.