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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 17:22:26
Subject: IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Page 78 of the BRB has rules for precision shots which is different from what is quoted from the AM dex. Well done GW well done.
So, the only place that Precision shot SR is mentioned is in the glossary of the AM dex and no where else (specifcally the Special rules page in the BRB, nor in the main body of the AM dex). Is the glossary enough to justify a rule?,
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 17:42:36
Subject: IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Nimble Mounted Yeoman
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MarkyMark wrote:Page 78 of the BRB has rules for precision shots which is different from what is quoted from the AM dex. Well done GW well done.
They're not different, they simply overlap. The BRB describes how characters get precision shots for free, and some mongs keep trying to insist that this method of getting them is confered to every other source of precision shot.
It is objectively not, and the new AM dex simply proves it. Specifically the ibook version. It never made sense to begin with and now we have proof that it is not RAW or RAI.
MarkyMark wrote:So, the only place that Precision shot SR is mentioned is in the glossary of the AM dex and no where else (specifcally the Special rules page in the BRB, nor in the main body of the AM dex). Is the glossary enough to justify a rule?,
Until now it was never allowed to be gained as a special rule, it was simply an advanced rule some models could invoke. It's now a Universal Special Rule because it's been defined in a codex.
Codex rules always take prescience over BRB rules, so yes. As of the publication of Astra Militarum, Precision Shot is now a special rule that both weapons and characters can have to allow precision shots for all their shooting attacks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 18:23:50
Subject: Re:IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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tgjensen wrote:This is debated elsewhere, in the general AM thread I think. But the issue is whether or not Precision Shots allow you to allocate all hits, or only when you hit on a roll of 6. My interpretation is that The Emperor's Benediction and the Take Aim! order plainly allows you to allocate all hits, and that requirement to roll a six to get a precision shot is a rule only for characters and snipers.
I.e.: Take Aim!/Emperor's Benediction -> You have Precision Shot rule -> Allocate hits as you please.
Character/Sniper -> Roll of 6 to hit is a Precision Shot -> Allocate this hit as you please.
Not at all clear. The order allows you to apply the precision shots section of the rules to those models. The precision shots rule is a paragraph that says you can assign hits on a 6.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 18:39:56
Subject: Re:IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Guardsman with Flashlight
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Mavnas wrote:
Not at all clear. The order allows you to apply the precision shots section of the rules to those models. The precision shots rule is a paragraph that says you can assign hits on a 6.
This is incorrect. The rule says that you assign precision shots to models. It lists rolling a 6 as a way to get precision shots. There are other ways, such as Take Aim.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 18:48:10
Subject: Re:IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Nimble Mounted Yeoman
UK
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Mavnas wrote:Not at all clear. The order allows you to apply the precision shots section of the rules to those models. The precision shots rule is a paragraph that says you can assign hits on a 6.
For those that need it, I'll keep quoting it.
“PRECISION SHOTS
Wounds from Precision Shots are allocated against a model (or models) of your choice in the target unit, as long as it is in range and line of sight of the firing model, rather than following the normal rules for Wound allocation. This means that Precision Shots can be allocated against enemies with specialist weaponry, or even characters!
A character that has a Precision Shot Wound allocated to it can still make a Look Out, Sir roll.
Note that Snap Shots and shots from weapons that scatter, or do not roll To Hit, can never be Precision Shots.”
Excerpt From: Games Workshop Ltd. “Codex - Astra Militarum.” iBooks.
Quoted in its entirety with not a word missing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 19:21:01
Subject: Re:IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Brachiaraidos wrote:Mavnas wrote:Not at all clear. The order allows you to apply the precision shots section of the rules to those models. The precision shots rule is a paragraph that says you can assign hits on a 6.
For those that need it, I'll keep quoting it.
“PRECISION SHOTS
Wounds from Precision Shots are allocated against a model (or models) of your choice in the target unit, as long as it is in range and line of sight of the firing model, rather than following the normal rules for Wound allocation. This means that Precision Shots can be allocated against enemies with specialist weaponry, or even characters!
A character that has a Precision Shot Wound allocated to it can still make a Look Out, Sir roll.
Note that Snap Shots and shots from weapons that scatter, or do not roll To Hit, can never be Precision Shots.”
Excerpt From: Games Workshop Ltd. “Codex - Astra Militarum.” iBooks.
Quoted in its entirety with not a word missing
Funny, that is exactly what the epub version says.
It's almost like there is a conflict between the codex and rulebook. If only we knew what to do in the case of said conflict.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/24 19:23:45
Subject: Re:IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
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Happyjew wrote: Brachiaraidos wrote:Mavnas wrote:Not at all clear. The order allows you to apply the precision shots section of the rules to those models. The precision shots rule is a paragraph that says you can assign hits on a 6.
For those that need it, I'll keep quoting it.
“PRECISION SHOTS
Wounds from Precision Shots are allocated against a model (or models) of your choice in the target unit, as long as it is in range and line of sight of the firing model, rather than following the normal rules for Wound allocation. This means that Precision Shots can be allocated against enemies with specialist weaponry, or even characters!
A character that has a Precision Shot Wound allocated to it can still make a Look Out, Sir roll.
Note that Snap Shots and shots from weapons that scatter, or do not roll To Hit, can never be Precision Shots.”
Excerpt From: Games Workshop Ltd. “Codex - Astra Militarum.” iBooks.
Quoted in its entirety with not a word missing
Funny, that is exactly what the epub version says.
It's almost like there is a conflict between the codex and rulebook. If only we knew what to do in the case of said conflict.
I believe the codex wins such things, but leave it to the internet argue it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/04/25 06:38:08
Subject: IG Relic "The Emperor's Benediction" Question
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
Castro Valley, CA
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I can't even begin to fathom how humorously bad it would be if GW doesn't FAQs this.
And back to my original question, me and my LFGS just say for the sake of argument that for the Emperor's Benediction all shots are precision shots.
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