Which Leman Russ variant to use?

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**Kain**

Corollax wrote:
This is weird. All the changes in the Astra Militarum codex reinforce the positions that Ailaros has been advancing for months. Ordnance Russes stayed the same or got a modest cost increase while the rest saw steep discounts. With the changes to Pask, even the Punisher is effective now. Great, even!

I'm not going to say the Demolisher was a great choice, but it was at least a decent IG take on the Vindicator model. A bit more expensive, but with improved armor values and a turret mount. Not great, but decent given the competition.

The new codex flips all that around, and now I find myself agreeing with what Ailaros has been saying all along. I don't know what I've done to deserve this.

Maybe someone in GW really likes Ailaros?

Which reminds me that I'm super-late with my response to his PM. I feel terrible.

**TheSilo**

Corollax wrote:
This is weird. All the changes in the Astra Militarum codex reinforce the positions that Ailaros has been advancing for months. Ordnance Russes stayed the same or got a small cost increase while the rest saw steep discounts (in both hull costs and secondary weapons). With the changes to Pask, even the Punisher is effective now. Great, even!

I'm not going to say the Demolisher was mandatory, but it was at least a decent IG take on the Vindicator model. A bit more expensive, but with improved armor values and a turret mount. Not fantastic, but decent given the competition.

The new codex flips all that around, and now I find myself agreeing with what Ailaros has been saying all along. I don't know what I've done to deserve this.

I think a lot of the changes to the AM codex were in anticipation of the 7th edition changes (see: the phrasing for Smite at Will! and Take Aim!, which reference the 7th edition language), so don't get too excited just yet. I'm personally hoping that heavy vehicles can fire all weapons at full BS, even when firing ordnance.

**GoliothOnline**

Has anyone mentioned Pask running around in a Punisher (IIRC) Gatling Leman Russ. Heavy 20 Str 5 with rending is pretty terrifying to MCs like Riptides from my experience with them.