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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 LuciusAR wrote:
So are there currently no Walmart's in New York? And if so is that because of some sort of campaign by the City Council to stop them?

NYC is a nanny state that has successfully made it illegal for Walmarts to be there, primarily because Walmart is nonunion and guess who controls NY?

No offense meant, put have you actually seen NY politics?

Seen as the rest fo the country is forced to hear about it - you betcha.

 CptJake wrote:
The closest WalMart to me has a McDonald's inside of it...

That's (sort of) the joke!

Raven911 wrote:
Why anyone would want to live in NY is beyond me.

NYC and the rest of NY are very different. if you take out NYC, than NY is more rural than Ohio.


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 Frazzled wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 LuciusAR wrote:
So are there currently no Walmart's in New York? And if so is that because of some sort of campaign by the City Council to stop them?

NYC is a nanny state that has successfully made it illegal for Walmarts to be there, primarily because Walmart is nonunion and guess who controls NY?

No offense meant, put have you actually seen NY politics?

Seen as the rest fo the country is forced to hear about it - you betcha.

Then you should now that NY politics is decidedly not controlled by unions.

 kronk wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
The closest WalMart to me has a McDonald's inside of it...

That's (sort of) the joke!

I know, I got it.

I have only ever been in WalMart once, and that was so my wife and I could witness the People of Walmart first hand

 CptJake wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 CptJake wrote:
The closest WalMart to me has a McDonald's inside of it...

That's (sort of) the joke!

I know, I got it.

Oh...


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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
I have only ever been in WalMart once, and that was so my wife and I could witness the People of Walmart first hand

I've been in WalMart many times in my youth, college days, and my adult life.

The store is fine. It just depends on what you're looking for.

3 million dollars is not much for a group like Walmart.

 purplefood wrote:
3 million dollars is not much for a group like Walmart.

I suspect it helped out the recipients though.

 hotsauceman1 wrote:

 Mr. Burning wrote:
If walmart moved in the mom and pop stores like Dunkin Donuts, Nike, Apple, Tiffanies, Mcdonalds and Best Buy would suffer.

Good on New York.

That always confused me. Best Buy is walmart for teckkies. Dunkin Donuts is a franchise, Nike........They are all as big as walmart
And maybe if those small stores wanted to stay competitive they woul lower their prices.

They have a term for why you don't see that happen: Economies of Scale.

It's the same reason why Amazon can give you free 2-day shipping with a yearly subscription fee to a premium service with other benefits, while no other company on the planet can. They had enough money to throw around to create a logistics infrastructure around the US that was beforehand unheard of. A small guy can't really compete with that except on terms of doing things like having a unique product or providing noticeably superior customer service, or having the desired product in stock at that exact moment.

Just because they're also franchises doesn't make them ANYWHERE as big as Walmart. To cherry pick a single metric to determine the relative size of the companies:
Nike Market Cap: 66.74B
Dunkin Donuts Market Cap: 4.89B
Best Buy Market Cap: 9.94B
Walmart Market Cap: 250.01B

And just for fun:
GW Market Cap: 191.29M (roughly 321.20M USD)

Also, Best Buy is utterly worthless and only good for things you need immediately. You can get a better deal on better selection with less hassle and wage-slave interaction online or at better stores. For example, Microcenter (kind of like Fry's) is thriving in spite of the barren wasteland that are most of the Best Buys around here. It's because they have a better selection, good prices, and employees who will get the hell out of your face if you ask them to.

Who actually goes to best buy any more?

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Who actually goes to best buy any more?

Zombies.

Ahh, kronk. I can always count on you for a laugh.
(I like the avatar BTW)

 kronk wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Who actually goes to best buy any more?

Zombies.

Camping out, illegal when protesting but legal when supporting capitalism!

 Frazzled wrote:

 LuciusAR wrote:
So are there currently no Walmart's in New York? And if so is that because of some sort of campaign by the City Council to stop them?

NYC is a nanny state that has successfully made it illegal for Walmarts to be there, primarily because Walmart is nonunion and guess who controls NY?

The Mafia?

 d-usa wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Who actually goes to best buy any more?

Zombies.

Camping out, illegal when protesting but legal when supporting capitalism!

"We had to arrest them, they were resisting arrest!"

 d-usa wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Who actually goes to best buy any more?

Zombies.

Camping out, illegal when doing on private property without permission or on public property without the correct permits, but legal when supporting capitalism within the law!




If you want to say something, say it yourself - don't try to put words in another poster's mouth via quote-editing. --Janthkin

Isn't that like buying the oppositions, against the Council members, voters by charity donations?

 CptJake wrote:

Camping out, illegal when doing on private property without permission or on public property without the correct permits, but legal when supporting capitalism within the law!

The minute they arrest the first Black Friday shopper whose tent touches the sidewalk you can pat yourself on the back for being right.

What a great investment for Wal-mart. They give 3 Million to charities and meanwhile pay so little that 30% of their employees are on Government Subsidies.

The 3 Million covers them with social responsibility while their business model depends on milking the states social safety net programs. I guarantee that the 3 Million is a drop int he bucke tcompared to what they save on payroll and benefits costs.

Brilliant really.

Paying their employees so little is actually a great business decision for them because so a lot of the welfare money gets spent at wall-marts. It's a circle of money for them.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Paying their employees so little is actually a great business decision for them because so a lot of the welfare money gets spent at wall-marts. It's a circle of money for them.

The modern version of getting paid with company tokens?

 d-usa wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Paying their employees so little is actually a great business decision for them because so a lot of the welfare money gets spent at wall-marts. It's a circle of money for them.

The modern version of getting paid with company tokens?

Pretty much, yeah. It just happens to be legal.

 purplefood wrote:
3 million dollars is not much for a group like Walmart.

That's just for NYC. They don't even have stores there. They actually donated more than a billion last year nation wide.

Good publicity is always useful when you have the rap that wallmart does.

 purplefood wrote:
3 million dollars is not much for a group like Walmart.

"Thanks for the monies!... Gib more monies please"

 d-usa wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Paying their employees so little is actually a great business decision for them because so a lot of the welfare money gets spent at wall-marts. It's a circle of money for them.

The modern version of getting paid with company tokens?

bitcoins, even!

 djones520 wrote:

 purplefood wrote:
3 million dollars is not much for a group like Walmart.

That's just for NYC. They don't even have stores there. They actually donated more than a billion last year nation wide.

Still a bargain when you operate on the scale they do witht he numbe rof employees they do.

The best part is, they aren;t the only ones doing it. All the big box retailers do this, and they still can't compete witht eh overhead reductions of Amazon.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

Raven911 wrote:
Why anyone would want to live in NY is beyond me.

NYC and the rest of NY are very different. if you take out NYC, than NY is more rural than Ohio.


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 Frazzled wrote:

 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 LuciusAR wrote:
So are there currently no Walmart's in New York? And if so is that because of some sort of campaign by the City Council to stop them?

NYC is a nanny state that has successfully made it illegal for Walmarts to be there, primarily because Walmart is nonunion and guess who controls NY?

No offense meant, put have you actually seen NY politics?

Seen as the rest fo the country is forced to hear about it - you betcha.

Then you should now that NY politics is decidedly not controlled by unions.

Not seen a lot of Republicans there...


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 Easy E wrote:
What a great investment for Wal-mart. They give 3 Million to charities and meanwhile pay so little that 30% of their employees are on Government Subsidies.

The 3 Million covers them with social responsibility while their business model depends on milking the states social safety net programs. I guarantee that the 3 Million is a drop int he bucke tcompared to what they save on payroll and benefits costs.

Brilliant really.

And the pro-"SCREW THE CHARITIES!" contingent kicks in. If you don't like them don't shop there.

I'm glad I live in NY State and not NYC. Of course there is a whole dozen threads that could spawn from some of the NY State Bullgak

 Overlord Thraka wrote:
I'm glad I live in NY State and not NYC. Of course there is a whole dozen threads that could spawn from some of the NY State Bullgak

There is plenty of crazy in Albany, but it’s much more convenient to get there then down to the city.

Of course, any gathering of politicians, from small town to major metropolis and state/federal is going to spew bullgak from time to time. You’d rather it not be your locals though.

But those NYC folks are extra crazy. Alway a trial when they come upstate to visit.