Switch Theme:

Will a new codex make my current collection useless?  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Esteemed Veteran Space Marine




My secret fortress at the base of the volcano!

 Ailaros wrote:
TheKbob wrote:The codex cycle hurts everyone.

The codex cycle only hurts people who:

A.) care about having a very strong army.

and

B.) don't want to do what it takes to keep having a very strong army over time.

Which means it only hurts people who are both WAAC and lazy simultaneously.

People who don't care that they have the most optimized armies won't care about things changing. People who play armies, not fad lists don't care because they probably already have the models to switch to different things anyways. People who are "serious" about winning will buy new models to keep their competitive edge (and will be glad that things have changed so they have a chance to get ahead of the curve).

It's only wannabes that are hurt by the codex cycle. People who want to win, but aren't willing to do what it takes. It's much easier to complain about how unfair everything is, and how it's not their fault that they're failing to achieve their goals than to get their priorities straight. Not unlike most things in life.


I ran Penal Squads and Rough Riders in my IG army. Tell me again how I'm WAAC.

Thekbob is right; every codex changes how your army plays. It may change it for the better (Tau, Necrons) it may change it for the worse (Tyranids) but codexes always change how your army works.

Unless you play Space Marines.

Rules editions can invalidate entire army play styles (assault, anyone?) and a new rule edition on top of a new codex can radically change your army.

Unless you play Space Marines.

I have multiple 40K armies and a couple of WHFB armies, and every new codex/army book means I have to change my army at least a little. With the exception of my Space Marines, who remain almost unchanged since 2nd Edition (I add new models to fill out points, but I have never shelved a unit as useless or had a unit removed from my codex) all of my armies get changed. Some a little, some a lot. My IG army has been redesigned from the top down twice already, and it would be getting re-built again if I had bothered to pick up the 6th ed codex. My VC and Beastmen get re-worked every book, too. While it's true that the Necrons aren't likely to lose units entirely from the codex, they may find units having radical rules changes that leave them much less useful (or far more useful) than before.

Emperor's Eagles (undergoing Chapter reorganization)
Caledonian 95th (undergoing regimental reorganization)
Thousands Sons (undergoing Warband re--- wait, are any of my 40K armies playable?) 
   
Made in ca
Fixture of Dakka




You have a good starting list. Go out and have fun. I mean why wait and not play for what may or may not come out?

Don't want to make any big purchases, then I say hold off, but use what you have. Also you don't need to worry about a new codex to nerd you, you need to worry about a new edition in 18 months or so popping up.

Just look what it did to Tau. So if you keep worrying what may happen, you will never be buying anything and having fun then. If you don't buy minis for collections, then you will have to think long and hard about buying those $150-$200 purchases for one mini, but if you also like collecting, then it's good even if the rules get nerved and the unit never gets used again. It's part of your collection.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
Made in us
Wraith






Davor wrote:
You have a good starting list. Go out and have fun. I mean why wait and not play for what may or may not come out?

Don't want to make any big purchases, then I say hold off, but use what you have. Also you don't need to worry about a new codex to nerd you, you need to worry about a new edition in 18 months or so popping up.

Just look what it did to Tau. So if you keep worrying what may happen, you will never be buying anything and having fun then. If you don't buy minis for collections, then you will have to think long and hard about buying those $150-$200 purchases for one mini, but if you also like collecting, then it's good even if the rules get nerved and the unit never gets used again. It's part of your collection.


I am enjoying collecting miniatures way more, for the record, and playing other games. If you have this mentality, it helps. But it also involves not giving a damn about the game, so to each their own.

Shine on, Kaldor Dayglow!
Not Ken Lobb

 
   
Made in us
Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin






Necrons already got a huge overhaul that changed everything, 5th edition gave out a lot of those. 7th/6th books haven't really invalidated all too much.

Necrons are also really stable right now. It wouldn't surprise me if the new book adjusted some points, clarified/updated some rules (like the death ray) and left most the army alone.

   
 
Forum Index » 40K General Discussion
Go to: