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Again, what specific quote, and when? Because the one I am familiar with was ending our involvement in 2014, and that promise was not made in 2008.

In 2008, he wanted to send 2 more brigades to Afghanistan, which he then did as President.

Pull Out date is harden. Coalition Forces withdraw end of 2014. If SOFA (Agreement just because of Ouze ) then a force of two Brigades will remain

When you do that, one eyelid flickers involuntarily

 Ouze wrote:
When you do that, one eyelid flickers involuntarily

Also do that when that one individual drop dead on a flight?

 trexmeyer wrote:


Yes, just as it is worse when a Special Forces operative dies then a POG or a grunt. Simply because you're losing a lot more experience and it will take a great deal of time to replace the loss. You can replace a PFC in 6 months. A Major will take years, a Major General decades.

Lack of rank, will not make a privates family feel the loss any less. All deaths are sad, rank is just rank, nothing more.

 loki old fart wrote:

 trexmeyer wrote:


Yes, just as it is worse when a Special Forces operative dies then a POG or a grunt. Simply because you're losing a lot more experience and it will take a great deal of time to replace the loss. You can replace a PFC in 6 months. A Major will take years, a Major General decades.

Lack of rank, will not make a privates family feel the loss any less. All deaths are sad, rank is just rank, nothing more.

What's your point exactly? Of course all deaths are sad, that doesn't change the fact much more time and effort was invested in training someone of a higher rank or unique skillset.

I posted one of these in the Enola Gay/Hiroshima thread. It appears the BBC are doing interactive historic reporting, in a pretty cool wee format.

Here's one on how Afghanistan was in the 50's, I felt its own thread would have been a bit pointless. It focuses on the 50's and American involvement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8529/index.html

A sad contrast.

 Medium of Death wrote:
I posted one of these in the Enola Gay/Hiroshima thread. It appears the BBC are doing interactive historic reporting, in a pretty cool wee format.

Here's one on how Afghanistan was in the 50's, I felt its own thread would have been a bit pointless. It focuses on the 50's and American involvement

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/special/2014/newsspec_8529/index.html

A sad contrast.

Thank you for that link. I have exalted you in return.