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Word bearers are obviously based on religious extremists (historical not modern). With the gothic culture of IoM I would compare them to the early violent spread of christianity (late dark ages), with the stagnated current IoM looking very medieval in its religious extremism and thus a direct parallel of the same continuation of christian europe.

 TheRobotLol wrote:
I think the biggest mistake would be to assume it's so cleanly cut, that Thousands Sons are just Eqyptians, and that Ultramarines are just Romans. Most chapters do have some sort of central inspiration, but are very much changed, twisted and merged with other cultures and styles, and so it would be perfectly valid to call the Sons both Persian and Egyptian.

Only Persian influences are a couple of names... Stop inflating it.

Khonsu wrote:

 TheRobotLol wrote:
I think the biggest mistake would be to assume it's so cleanly cut, that Thousands Sons are just Eqyptians, and that Ultramarines are just Romans. Most chapters do have some sort of central inspiration, but are very much changed, twisted and merged with other cultures and styles, and so it would be perfectly valid to call the Sons both Persian and Egyptian.

Only Persian influences are a couple of names... Stop inflating it.

1) Thousand Sons were founded from a Terran empire named after the Persian Empire.

2) You're really really ignorant if you think "Egypian" means "Pyramids", considering multiple cultures in human history have created large three dimensional stacked structures.

I want to be an Albanian Space Marine.

A Japanese one.

BANZAAAAAAAI

 Wyzilla wrote:

Khonsu wrote:

 TheRobotLol wrote:
I think the biggest mistake would be to assume it's so cleanly cut, that Thousands Sons are just Eqyptians, and that Ultramarines are just Romans. Most chapters do have some sort of central inspiration, but are very much changed, twisted and merged with other cultures and styles, and so it would be perfectly valid to call the Sons both Persian and Egyptian.

Only Persian influences are a couple of names... Stop inflating it.

1) Thousand Sons were founded from a Terran empire named after the Persian Empire.

2) You're really really ignorant if you think "Egypian" means "Pyramids", considering multiple cultures in human history have created large three dimensional stacked structures.

I'm not Ignorant, Their first influx of recruits were supposedly from the Achaemenid Empire on Terra, Out of those only Ahriman and Ohrmuzd are mentioned and even then that supposedly Persian connection is barely elaborated upon.
Egyptian doesn't mean Pyramids, I've never said that so I'd stop jumping to conclusions, The names of their Rank and file Astartes, The Legion's symbols(A Scarab being a major one) ,It's basic structure called the Pesedjet, The fact many Heresy Era models are depicted using Power Weapons that are basically Egyptian Khopesh Swords, all point to Egyptian influence, not a Persian one, In fact some of their names actually remind me of Ptolemy's Egypt as mentioned above, Since they have some Greek influenced names but the supposed "Persian" influence is unfelt.

The newer FW Raven Guard depictions have a slight Maori type vibe with all tribal markings and such.

The Night Lords are mutts. Remember half of them are Terran. ZSO SAHAAL, sounds Asian to me and his honor code reflects many of the warrior codes of that region. Nostramans are Slavic and Konrad is an American, Anglo Saxon name and based on a fictional American character. mutts, sceptics to their core and fighting a war that they don't understand, I can't think of a more American story. I hope this does'nt get misinterpreted like the last time I posted something like this, its not meant to be an insult to America.

Sons of Horus: Their gang culture, but older gang culture, not cartel hit squads but more like the old Irish gangs of Philly.

Death Guard are Albanians.

Ultramarine's are ancient Greeks, so are the Iron Warriors.

World Eaters don't particularly belong to anyone.

Imperial Fist are Prussians.

Blood Angels are Spaniards and other Mediterraneans.

Emperors Children are decadent Romans.

Word Bearers are based on several different Middle Eastern tribes.

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
They don't all have a direct, or pure, analogy.

They all seem to however. Modern Dark Angels resemble Arthurian Myths of Early Britain, Night Lords actually originated from the Slavic Empire/Balkan Empire during the Great Crusade (never really known from where the culture is though), Salamanders resemble Scandinavian culture, although I don't know much about Africa so their could be an exact parallel somewhere there.

Elements of the Dark Angels, however, come straight out of Native American culture. In the fluff, a Death Wing squad of Native American types purged their homeworld of a Gene stealer infestation.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cloud_Runner#.VA0LU2K9KSM

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
They don't all have a direct, or pure, analogy.

They all seem to however. Modern Dark Angels resemble Arthurian Myths of Early Britain, Night Lords actually originated from the Slavic Empire/Balkan Empire during the Great Crusade (never really known from where the culture is though), Salamanders resemble Scandinavian culture, although I don't know much about Africa so their could be an exact parallel somewhere there.

Elements of the Dark Angels, however, come straight out of Native American culture. In the fluff, a Death Wing squad of Native American types purged their homeworld of a Gene stealer infestation.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cloud_Runner#.VA0LU2K9KSM

That stuff is multiple editions old and hasn't even been mentioned since. It's about as relevant as the half eldar ultramarine or Sister Sin.

 Wyzilla wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
They don't all have a direct, or pure, analogy.

They all seem to however. Modern Dark Angels resemble Arthurian Myths of Early Britain, Night Lords actually originated from the Slavic Empire/Balkan Empire during the Great Crusade (never really known from where the culture is though), Salamanders resemble Scandinavian culture, although I don't know much about Africa so their could be an exact parallel somewhere there.

Elements of the Dark Angels, however, come straight out of Native American culture. In the fluff, a Death Wing squad of Native American types purged their homeworld of a Gene stealer infestation.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cloud_Runner#.VA0LU2K9KSM

That stuff is multiple editions old and hasn't even been mentioned since. It's about as relevant as the half eldar ultramarine or Sister Sin.

I guess that settles that, then.

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
They don't all have a direct, or pure, analogy.

They all seem to however. Modern Dark Angels resemble Arthurian Myths of Early Britain, Night Lords actually originated from the Slavic Empire/Balkan Empire during the Great Crusade (never really known from where the culture is though), Salamanders resemble Scandinavian culture, although I don't know much about Africa so their could be an exact parallel somewhere there.

Elements of the Dark Angels, however, come straight out of Native American culture. In the fluff, a Death Wing squad of Native American types purged their homeworld of a Gene stealer infestation.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cloud_Runner#.VA0LU2K9KSM

That stuff is multiple editions old and hasn't even been mentioned since. It's about as relevant as the half eldar ultramarine or Sister Sin.

I guess that settles that, then.

The only thing left about Cloud is the Deathwing symbol, but even the Dark Angels don't remember where it came from now.

 Wyzilla wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

Relapse wrote:

 Wyzilla wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:
They don't all have a direct, or pure, analogy.

They all seem to however. Modern Dark Angels resemble Arthurian Myths of Early Britain, Night Lords actually originated from the Slavic Empire/Balkan Empire during the Great Crusade (never really known from where the culture is though), Salamanders resemble Scandinavian culture, although I don't know much about Africa so their could be an exact parallel somewhere there.

Elements of the Dark Angels, however, come straight out of Native American culture. In the fluff, a Death Wing squad of Native American types purged their homeworld of a Gene stealer infestation.

http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Cloud_Runner#.VA0LU2K9KSM

That stuff is multiple editions old and hasn't even been mentioned since. It's about as relevant as the half eldar ultramarine or Sister Sin.

I guess that settles that, then.

The only thing left about Cloud is the Deathwing symbol, but even the Dark Angels don't remember where it came from now.

It was a good read back in the day when the story was written.

Salamanders are descendants of the lizardmen which now secretly run the world

As has been said multiple times before, I think it's downright incorrect to reduce a Legion's background down to a singular historical influence.

And as an Egyptian, whilst I would say that much of the Thousand Sons influence comes from our culture, the recognition of an Iranian element is perfectly justifiable - it bears a degree of resemblance to Zoroastrianism (whose founder's name translates as 'Ahriman').

But yeah. The majority of the cultural influence has been twisted and amalgamated with the vision of GW's writers/creative directors.

Ironclad Warlord wrote:

Death Guard are Albanians.

 Wyzilla wrote:

Death Guard are Balkan/Albanian

What is the source for this? I have seen it posted in a few places. Some materials mention Terran Death Guard being from Albion, which is an old name for Britain, not Albania. And I'm not sure what aspects of their history or culture fit Albania?

 Magos Explorator wrote:

Ironclad Warlord wrote:

Death Guard are Albanians.

 Wyzilla wrote:

Death Guard are Balkan/Albanian

What is the source for this? I have seen it posted in a few places. Some materials mention Terran Death Guard being from Albion, which is an old name for Britain, not Albania. And I'm not sure what aspects of their history or culture fit Albania?

What? They come from Albia. Not Ablyon.

I am away from my books at the moment but here is a thread pointing to Albia/Alba and Albion, not Albania: http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/archive/index.php/t-33787.html

(I am genuinely curious if there's anything which directly states/hints at Albania.)

(EDIT: To clarify, basically anything in support of the interpretation of 'Albia' being 'Albania' rather than 'Alba' or 'Albion'.)

 Magos Explorator wrote:
I am away from my books at the moment but here is a thread pointing to Albia/Alba and Albion, not Albania: http://www.lounge.belloflostsouls.net/archive/index.php/t-33787.html

(I am genuinely curious if there's anything which directly states/hints at Albania.)

(EDIT: To clarify, basically anything in support of the interpretation of 'Albia' being 'Albania' rather than 'Alba' or 'Albion'.)

There already IS Britain. It's called Albyon, not Albia.

What's the source for that statement (in regard to Heresy/40k)?

And, even if you are right that Albia is not Britain, what is the evidence to support Albia being Albania (besides some letters in common)?

(EDIT: Again, not sure how my messages come across: I am not trolling, genuinely curious as to how people come to the conclusion.)

 Magos Explorator wrote:
What's the source for that statement (in regard to Heresy/40k)?

And, even if you are right that Albia is not Britain, what is the evidence to support Albia being Albania (besides some letters in common)?

(EDIT: Again, not sure how my messages come across: I am not trolling, genuinely curious as to how people come to the conclusion.)

Because every other region is already taken.