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 jreilly89 wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
After all, the crusades, the holocaust, sterilization of the handicapped ect were all done with the best of intentions.

None of these things were done with good intentions.

The crusades were absolutely done with good intentions. They thought they were doing God's work by retaking the Holy Land and cleansing the blasphemers. What can be claimed to be better than purging your God's enemies?

Note: I am ABSOLUTELY NOT saying the crusades were a good thing, I am saying that in most of the soldiers' minds, they thought they were doing the right thing.

And that is the greatest evil. When someone does a horrible thing under the guise of doing a goo thing and believes there own lie.

 Hordini wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
After all, the crusades, the holocaust, sterilization of the handicapped ect were all done with the best of intentions.

None of these things were done with good intentions.

The crusades were absolutely done with good intentions. They thought they were doing God's work by retaking the Holy Land and cleansing the blasphemers. What can be claimed to be better than purging your God's enemies?

While I'm sure that was true in some cases, it certainly wasn't across the board. Plenty of crusaders set off quite simply to gain wealth and lands.

Of course the many attacks by Muslims on Europe in the centuries before the Crusades might have, also played into their launching.

Relapse wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
After all, the crusades, the holocaust, sterilization of the handicapped ect were all done with the best of intentions.

None of these things were done with good intentions.

The crusades were absolutely done with good intentions. They thought they were doing God's work by retaking the Holy Land and cleansing the blasphemers. What can be claimed to be better than purging your God's enemies?

While I'm sure that was true in some cases, it certainly wasn't across the board. Plenty of crusaders set off quite simply to gain wealth and lands.

Of course the many attacks by Muslims on Europe in the centuries before the Crusades might have, also played into their launching.

Something something, Al-Andalus.


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 Co'tor Shas wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
After all, the crusades, the holocaust, sterilization of the handicapped ect were all done with the best of intentions.

None of these things were done with good intentions.

The crusades were absolutely done with good intentions. They thought they were doing God's work by retaking the Holy Land and cleansing the blasphemers. What can be claimed to be better than purging your God's enemies?

Note: I am ABSOLUTELY NOT saying the crusades were a good thing, I am saying that in most of the soldiers' minds, they thought they were doing the right thing.

And that is the greatest evil. When someone does a horrible thing under the guise of doing a goo thing and believes there own lie.

Just because they were medieval doesn't mean they were all naive. While I'm sure some believed their own lie, there were plenty who saw it for what it was (and took advantage of it).

This is an interesting map of noteworthy battles of Jihad vs. Crusades:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

You mean Islamic piracy/raiding and a caliphate in Spain was a thing?

Imagine that.

 Hordini wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:

 Hordini wrote:

 easysauce wrote:
After all, the crusades, the holocaust, sterilization of the handicapped ect were all done with the best of intentions.

None of these things were done with good intentions.

The crusades were absolutely done with good intentions. They thought they were doing God's work by retaking the Holy Land and cleansing the blasphemers. What can be claimed to be better than purging your God's enemies?

While I'm sure that was true in some cases, it certainly wasn't across the board. Plenty of crusaders set off quite simply to gain wealth and lands.

Oh absolutely, but I feel that the priests and the captains who sanctioned it most likely believed in the afformentioned ideals.

Relapse wrote:
This is an interesting map of noteworthy battles of Jihad vs. Crusades:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo

Sorry for the necro thread, but I have to speak for this video

The guy in the video only focuses on the crusades in the middle east and forgets about the crusades in the North and such. In addition, he also seems to lump ANYthing that the Muslims to into a jihad while for the crusades, he only looks at the Crusades in the middle east. Also, they may not be crusades but a bunch of stupid things done by Europeans were done under the name of spreading Christianity(the conquest of the Americas)

Don't necro please, especially when you admit you know it's a necro