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I doubt that. There are numerous methods of training that would not traditionally be classified as "cardio" which are in fact "cardio"; meaning that they are focused on burning calories and developing the muscles involved in the cardiovascular system.
Breotan wrote: Carbs, fat, and dairy must all go. Or at least be restricted to the bare minimum. Basically anything associated with dessert or snacks. Anything deep fried must also go. Any protein should be lean like turkey or fish.
Remember, diet (reducing intake) is what loses weight. Exercise (cardio, lifting, etc.) is what develops muscle mass.
Don't think you can exercise your way out of a double cheeseburger.
That's not completely true. You can exercise your way out of a double cheeseburger, but most people probably aren't willing to work out that much. If you have a reasonably healthy diet but eat just a bit too much now and then and do no exercise, beginning and maintaining a regular exercise regimen will make a huge difference even if you don't change your diet that much. And actually, you can still eat a double cheeseburger from time to time, as long as you are at a caloric deficit overall (assuming you're trying to lose weight). It all depends on your starting point and what you're already doing. If you have an atrocious diet and do no exercise, obviously you will have to improve both things. How much you really have to change your diet really depends on what your diet already is, and how much more exercise you need to do depends on how much you're already doing.
I doubt that. There are numerous methods of training that would not traditionally be classified as "cardio" which are in fact "cardio"; meaning that they are focused on burning calories and developing the muscles involved in the cardiovascular system.
The closest I come to any form of "cardio" would be cleans and box jumps. Both for 3 or less reps. I'm not a bodybuilder and 150g of protein = 2500 calories proves you have no idea what you're on about.
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
How are you actually going to consume 150g of protein in only 600 calories worth of food? I would love to know. Even with protein shakes it's way, way over 600 calories.
Hordini wrote: How are you actually going to consume 150g of protein in only 600 calories worth of food? I would love to know. Even with protein shakes it's way, way over 600 calories.
I really hate intentionally disingenuous posts, but in your case I assume it comes from actual ignorance.
1) I'm simply pointing out the fact that there are 4 calories per gram of carb and protein and 9 calories per gram of fat. This is a scientific fact.
2) You can easily reach 150g of protein from food at less than 800 calories. For an example. http://www.calorieking.com/foods/calories-in-chicken-breast-without-skin-raw_f-ZmlkPTY4Mjc1.html 26g of protein to 1.5g of fat or 150g of protein to 9g of fat. A total of 681 calories.
3) Obviously you'll be eating some fat or carbs with protein depending on the source.
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
Yeah, sure, you're just a guy that takes nude selfies and posts them on the internet. Not something bodybuilders ever do.
trexmeyer wrote: ...and 150g of protein = 2500 calories proves you have no idea what you're on about.
No, it simply proves that I referenced something on the internet, and did so wrongly.
Either way, you won't lose weight eating 2000 calories composed solely of fat and protein. In fact, you will gain weight (unless you incur a calorie deficit), another thing bodybuilders like to do.
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Yeah, sure, you're just a guy that takes nude selfies and posts them on the internet. Not something bodybuilders ever do.
trexmeyer wrote: ...and 150g of protein = 2500 calories proves you have no idea what you're on about.
No, it simply proves that I referenced something on the internet, and did so wrongly.
Either way, you won't lose weight eating 2000 calories composed solely of fat and protein. In fact, you will gain weight, another thing bodybuilders like to do.
1) Nope. I don't do interval training. Everything is purely maximal strength and explosiveness.
2) It's called getting a BF% estimate. I don't do any lifting for appearance purposes.
3) Really? I've done that multiple times. It's called being in a caloric deficit.
I'll admit that I plan to start doing HIIT, but that's just because I want to see if it'll help me get leaner.
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
I'll admit that I plan to start doing HIIT, but that's just because I want to see if it'll help me get leaner.
That doesn't help the "I'm not a bodybuilder." argument.
1) Maybe because I sit on my arse and do nothing for 3-5 minutes betweet sets?
2) To rub it in your face? 3) But you just said it won't work if it's all fat and protein. 4) I don't compete in bodybuilding, I have no plans to compete in bodybuilding, I don't strive to achieve ideal physical proportions, etc. If you want to call me anything, you could say I'm a powerlifter since I focus on improving my total on the big 3 lifts (squat, bench, deadlift), I lift at a powerlifting gym, and I *might* compete one day for the heck of it.
Edit: And thank you for delivering the lulz once again!
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The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
Why would someone constantly claiming not to be a bodybuilder post regularly on a website called bodybuilder.com? Something seems amiss.
It's not as if strongmen, powerlifters, olympic weightlifters, or people interested in general health and fitness would ever post there ever, under any circumstances. I honestly don't care if you think I'm a bodybuilder or not. I just hope Hotsauce doesn't listen to the terrible advice in this thread and bothers to go elsewhere or better yet, do some research.
The only way we can ever solve anything is to look in the mirror and find no enemy
Also, on this board, you actually have to type out your posts.
Let's get back to the advice, shall we?
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-to answer the thread, just do some weight training. Eat 500-1k cals less then Ur TDEE, which you will have to find out(its not that difficult)
At first pretty much all the weight you will lose will be rapid and it will be mainly water weight, after you lose the water weight you will actually start losing fat if you are in a caloric deficit(losing weight is as simple as calories in vs calories out, dont listen to anyone sayin stuff like "eat clean and healthy to get shredded"-no lol, thats just to be healthy lmao.the reason i said to lift weights is to maintain as much muscle as you can so you can hope to lose mostly fat with minimal muscle lost, i would suggest getting 180g of protein(im currently getting 180-220 but im 192lbs) also, invest in some creatine and whey protein and a fat burner, i suggest xenadrine as thats what im currently taking, gl m8, join bb.com for REAL advice.
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It's time to start using proper grammar and punctuation. It's in the forum rules. You're welcome to post here, but you're expected to follow the same rules as everyone else. This isn't a chat room or a twitter feed.
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It's time to start using proper grammar and punctuation. It's in the forum rules. You're welcome to post here, but you're expected to follow the same rules as everyone else. This isn't a chat room or a twitter feed.
I just can't get past the irony in that post of his.
Ignor most of the nonsense about "cut out x" and "do Y exercise". I cycle and if I followed that stuff I would quickly run in to big problems. Ignore the body builders, gym bunnies and anyone else who gives specific advice. They do t know you or your aims.
Cut out carbs? If I did that I would end up having no energy and boinking (what runners call hitting the wall). When I'm doing distance I eat lots of very complex carbs the day before to get my glycogen levels up, then a mix of complex carbs and simple carbs (sugar) as I ride to keep me fuled. You can feel them working as your energy ebbs and flows. Not saying you should do this, as this is what works for me, just and example of how diet advice is not universal. And trust me, endurance athletes can feel the effects of food like no gym goer can. I can tell within 2 miles if my diat was right simply by my speed and how I feel. I know when I am eating right and it's not when I'm low on carbs.
Find something you enjoy, cut out most of the junk (not all, at least not immidiatly as you will crash cutting sugar cold turkey) drink only water, and drink lots of it. One of the biggest reasons people over eat is they mistake being thirsty for being hungry. Get a water bottle, carry it with you, and if you feel hungry between meals have a drink. Eat three meals a day, don't try and do too much, and watch out for running, it will kill your legs.
Other than "cut out the junk" don't listen to any diet advice from someone who is not a doctor or a dietician. At 300 lbs I would talk to your doctor. They may be able to refer you to a dietician. Talk to the guys employed by the gym, they should be able to work out an excercise plan that is for you. Don't punish yourself or listen to the body builder BS here or at the gym. That will just end up with you hateing working out, giving up and possibly doing long term damage.
Edited for spelling.
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Find something you enjoy, cut out most of the junk (not all, at least not imidiat oh as you will crash cutting sugar cold turky) drink only water, and drink lots of it.
Good, solid advice.
Losing weight, and being healthy, is a lifestyle choice.
It's not as if strongmen, powerlifters, olympic weightlifters, or people interested in general health and fitness would ever post there ever, under any circumstances.
I don't believe anyone claimed that such people did not.
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Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh.
Other than "cut out the junk" don't listen to any diet advice from someone who is not a doctor or a dietician. At 300 lbs I would talk to your doctor. They may be able to refer you to a dietician. Talk to the guys employed by the gym, they should be able to work out an excercise plan that is for you. Don't punish yourself or listen to the body builder BS here or at the gym. That will just end up with you hateing working out, giving up and possibly doing long term damage.
Depends on the gym honestly... I've seen some gym employees that I wouldn't take advice on how to sit in a sauna from, but others that I would listen to every word they say with note pad ready.
Although, based on what the OP said, I showed him basically what I personally do in the gym, which works for my goals (which aren't necessarily weight loss). If there are any questions on lifts, I can give *general* advice on them, but without seeing in person, can't really comment further.
Don't get me wrong, weight loss isn't something that is *fun* to do, there are going to be days that feel like punishment. This is where Jihadin's advice comes in: you GOTTA have motivation, and determination. You have to push through those tough days. Also realize that some days are simply going to be bad, if you're dieting in anyway, you're going to have days that simply don't work for that diet. This isn't the end of the world, and you don't need to "punish" yourself more because you had a snack or ate something you shouldn't have.
This is why the more hardcore gym bunnies, body builders, etc. give themselves one "cheat day" per week (but many times, BBs are to the point where they are weighing food, monitoring the exact intake that they have calorically, etc which is quite crazy for us normal joes)
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Steve steveson wrote: Ignor most of the nonsense about "cut out x" and "do Y exercise". I cycle and if I followed that stuff I would quickly run in to big problems. Ignore the body builders, gym bunnies and anyone else who gives specific advice. They do t know you or your aims.
Cut out carbs? If I did that I would end up having no energy and boinking (what runners call hitting the wall). When I'm doing distance I eat lots of very complex carbs the day before to get my glycogen levels up, then a mix of complex carbs and simple carbs (sugar) as I ride to keep me fuled. You can feel them working as your energy ebbs and flows. Not saying you should do this, as this is what works for me, just and example of how diet advice is not universal. And trust me, endurance athletes can feel the effects of food like no gym goer can. I can tell within 2 miles if my diat was right simply by my speed and how I feel. I know when I am eating right and it's not when I'm low on carbs.
Find something you enjoy, cut out most of the junk (not all, at least not immidiatly as you will crash cutting sugar cold turkey) drink only water, and drink lots of it. One of the biggest reasons people over eat is they mistake being thirsty for being hungry. Get a water bottle, carry it with you, and if you feel hungry between meals have a drink. Eat three meals a day, don't try and do too much, and watch out for running, it will kill your legs.
Other than "cut out the junk" don't listen to any diet advice from someone who is not a doctor or a dietician. At 300 lbs I would talk to your doctor. They may be able to refer you to a dietician. Talk to the guys employed by the gym, they should be able to work out an excercise plan that is for you. Don't punish yourself or listen to the body builder BS here or at the gym. That will just end up with you hateing working out, giving up and possibly doing long term damage.
Edited for spelling.
This is honestly some of the best advice in the thread.
Squidmanlolz wrote: A good tip for losing weight is to work out early in the morning, if possible, having not eaten for at least 12-14 hours. remember to stay hydrated.
Sadly not an option, classes first things in the mornings.
First, get rid of this attitude.
Unless your classes are at 6AM, you have time. Getting up earlier will force you to go to bed earlier, as well, which is much better for you.
The 'don't have time' attitude is one of the biggest things that can break a good routine. Gotta find the time.
Additionally, Log your food intake and sleep schedule. It will help you keep yourself accountable.
And finally, see a dietician/nutritionist and hire a trainer for your first few workouts. I'd wager you're not accustomed to exercise and healthy eating, so you'll want to learn how to do it correctly.
And if you're drinkin' well, you know that you're my friend and I say "I think I'll have myself a beer" 
