Your Opinion Of The New Blood Angels Codex?

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**Pain4Pleasure**

An... Update? No they won't be seeing anything for a few years. They already have a hard cover codex. Gw is finishing up (necrons only now) making every dex hard cover then will focus on fantasy for a bit. Ism why csm, tau, and eldar are assumed to get a new dex so soon lol.

**Paradigm**

wuestenfux wrote:
Paradigm wrote:
I'm very, very happy with it. One of my favourite characters, Dante, is now the warrior he always should been, the price drops on key units and upgrades helps the playability of the army no end, the new Detachment (and old school FC that comes with it) is awesome, and the relics and Warlord traits are all very nice too. And how could I forget, Heavy Flamers on Tacticals is a dream come true for me, I just love the way they look and play!

My only minor gripe is the moving of Priests to HQ (but adding an Archangels detachment from Exterminatus gets me round that) and the fact they can't take TDA (solved by three minutes of pregame conversation in most cases).

I can't wait to get it on the table.

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau wait out there to table you.

I have no Eldar players nearby, and have never had any issue beating the few Tau players we have around here. It comes from playing in a meta where people don't feel the need to exploit imbalance to the extreme to win at toy soldiers...

So optimism it is!

**wuestenfux**

koooaei wrote:
wuestenfux wrote:

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau wait out there to table you.

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau wait out there to get an update.

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau will get an update but not too soon.

**koooaei**

wuestenfux wrote:
koooaei wrote:
wuestenfux wrote:

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau wait out there to table you.

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau wait out there to get an update.

Don't be too optimistic.
Eldar and Tau will get an update but not too soon.

Ohhhh, that's a pity. Hardcover has just saved riptide and serpent spam for another 2 years or so

**casvalremdeikun**

I wouldn't be too sure on Tau and Eldar being immune to an update. How long was the spread between 5th, 6th, and 7th editions?

**Pain4Pleasure**

Eh, pretty sure it won't happen. Really it's just people wanting it to happen to fix the "cheese" but is not really needed. They would lose out on making more money on the still very new copies of both dex they already have made. As stated, I doubt a new dex is coming.

**soomemafia**

Tamwulf wrote:
I don't like what happened to Tycho. No more Reclusiarch's. Mephiston needed a nerf bat. Astorath got worse (his axe is unwieldy now?!?! But Dante's isn't?!?! Why?), and Dante got way better... I'm a bit surprised The Sanguinor made it into this edition. Even with the changes to him, he's still a "WTF?!?" model. If you ask me, he should have been moved to a Lord of War choice, and made into a Monstrous Creature. It was a bit surprising the move of the Assault Squads and Death Company- and I'm still trying to understand why Tycho and Lemartus are Independent Characters, but can only join Death Company units. Loss of Land Raiders as dedicated transports for everything and that they can't deepstrike anymore makes me a bit sad- not that I ever did it, just the Internet 40K Meme of a Flying Land Raider with Dante on it coming down to the battlefield always made me smile. I'm pleased to see the Sanguinary Guard, Furisio and Librarian Dreads are back. Oh, and the Baal Preds. Nothing says "Light 'em up!" quite like a Flamestorm cannon and two Heavy Flamers. Speaking on that... why Heavy Flamers in a Tac squad? Such a bizarre change... loss of the Honor Guard and being replaced by the Command Squad, with the Command Squad taking up a choice irks me a bit as well.

The Red Thirst and Black Rage being toned down/army wide now is a 'meh'. It waters down the entire codex, and adds fuel to those that think the BA should just be folded into the Space Marine Codex and given a Warlord trait that reflects the Red Thirst/Black Rage.

How does this codex fit in with the rest of 7th Edition and it's codexes? A big, giant "Meh". There is really nothing in this book that screams to me "PLAY ME!". I can see a use for just about everything in here, with your typical some choices being more appropriate then others (not necessarily better). It is a big change from the previous codex and it's "Must Take" units. Looking at you, Mephy! Well, before 6th and the Nerfing you took there, and the nerfing again, and... well, it seems like someone at GW just hates Mephy... I wonder why? Lost one to many games to Mephy? /shrug.

It's a solid codex that is just a bit too bland for my tastes. Hence, the "Meh".

1. Astorath's Axe was always Unwieldy (at least after the 6th came out). If you played him correctly, the Axe actually got buffed.

2. Why on Earth do you think that a Space Marine should be turned into a MC? For lulz?

3. Getting Heavy Flamers is literally the least bizarre change right after point reductions.

4. Command Squad = the old Honor Guard. The only real difference is that they are Elites now, which obviously sucks unless you intend to spam them as Special Weapon platforms.

5. The new Red Thirst is far better rules-wise, but I agree that it sucks fluff-wise when compared to the old one.

6. If you ask me, Mephiston is one of the big winners of the new codex. Being Independent Characters protects him far better than T6 ever did.
The Sanguine Sword and massive point reduction are also most welcome.

Overall, it's pretty bland like all of the 7th edition codices. I welcome it as a long-wanted update, but it was really optimistic to expect nothing more than what we gained.