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You only have to take one level in maelific to qualify, but it does reduce your odds of getting invisibility

deano134679 wrote:
No worries, ill habe a look later did have a thought though to take the second fire raptor i either need abaddon, awarpsmith of a sorcerer with daemonology doesnr mean he cant take telepathy and turn my siege tank invisible? Just another idea to make my list more disgusting

Your list is starting to resemble some of the chaos nastiness I tend to face. I dig it. I do have some further suggestions though:

-You don't need the allied contingent. Simply include a technomancer (sorc etc) in your primary and you can include as many relics as you wish. The reason for ia13 allies is gonna be arty, zombie hordes and generally IG style forces.. read 55 pt wyverns, rapiers, earthshakers and other yummy's.

-It really is a shame to leave that nurgle lord lamed. Throw him a bone and at least give him a fist/claw.

-The PMs I suggest plasma. I guess ymmv but I never have been too impressed with rhino mounted melta.

-The legacies are found on pg 187 btw. As mentioned above vessel of tzenahk is excellent especially on something durable like a raptor and twin linked/high RoF to get around bs3. Note it says one vehicle may take one or more legacies.. now battle scribe contradicts this but their files often have flaws. Anyway just fyi.

-And lastly one more try at convincing you to take at least 1 sicaran. With 15 shots they handle hordes better than a vindi, are faster, better range, just as resilient and suffer less from damage chart results among other things. AND they wreck wave serpents. Hell they are a WS. Plus they threaten flyers (not that it matters with double raptors although against FMC spam and such they will be welcome). If taking a technomancer theres not really a reason to exclude these man since the typhoon covers your pie plates more than adequately.

Thats what I got.