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The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.

 Melissia wrote:
Primes are stupidly dumb to grind. Normal weapons are much less insane to get...



I've just given up and decided to buy plat to trade for it.

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Update: I now own a Loki Prime. I may need to forma it several times to get the build I need. The same goes for my Latron Prime. I'm looking to get and mod a Synoid Gammacor, but that's on hold, as I'm currently in the process of levelling and forma-ing my DexFurisAkzani to get the most out of them. Then it's onto either the Jat Kittag or Scindo Prime. Both are good, one has the damage, and the other has the most overall utility.

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Jat Kittag

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 Melissia wrote:
Jat Kittag


I'm tempted, but Scindo Prime with Cleaving Whirlwind!

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Does Warframe have a PvP element?
   
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 GeekEnglish wrote:
Does Warframe have a PvP element?


Yes and no, Dark sectors is kinda PvP, i think that you can fight other Tenno but haven't tried that yet.and there was mention of it in their devstream

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Warframe has PvP but it's the worst part of warframe.

Yes, it's worse than the grind.

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 Melissia wrote:
Warframe has PvP but it's the worst part of warframe.

Yes, it's worse than the grind.



The grind hasn't bothered me that much. Surprisingly. Other than Hydroid. Vay Hek can go and do one.

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Jumped into the game with a Bow/Sword/Shuriken build with the balanced starting character on Xbone

I'm noticing the respawn things are numbered, what happens when I run out?

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You get a certain number of respawn tokens a day, can buy more with real money.

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 gunslingerpro wrote:
Jumped into the game with a Bow/Sword/Shuriken build with the balanced starting character on Xbone

I'm noticing the respawn things are numbered, what happens when I run out?


Depending on the mission it is better to keep the spawns and just retry you keep the XP but lose any mods or resources you find, once you level up your weapons and put some mods on them you start to breeze through the lower level missions

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Melissia wrote:You get a certain number of respawn tokens a day, can buy more with real money.


Jehan-reznor wrote:
 gunslingerpro wrote:
Jumped into the game with a Bow/Sword/Shuriken build with the balanced starting character on Xbone

I'm noticing the respawn things are numbered, what happens when I run out?


Depending on the mission it is better to keep the spawns and just retry you keep the XP but lose any mods or resources you find, once you level up your weapons and put some mods on them you start to breeze through the lower level missions


Good to know. Seems I'll be thinking a little harder about my respawn use. Are the pistols better than Shurikens? Cause they seem to be pretty inaccurate.

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 gunslingerpro wrote:
Melissia wrote:You get a certain number of respawn tokens a day, can buy more with real money.


Jehan-reznor wrote:
 gunslingerpro wrote:
Jumped into the game with a Bow/Sword/Shuriken build with the balanced starting character on Xbone

I'm noticing the respawn things are numbered, what happens when I run out?


Depending on the mission it is better to keep the spawns and just retry you keep the XP but lose any mods or resources you find, once you level up your weapons and put some mods on them you start to breeze through the lower level missions


Good to know. Seems I'll be thinking a little harder about my respawn use. Are the pistols better than Shurikens? Cause they seem to be pretty inaccurate.


The game is really imbalanced towards rifles and the like.

I.E. The Soma and Boltor Prime can both get burst DPS's of about 30k and up. Bows have one option and that's to go for the red crit build. As for shuriken, they're inferior to the best late game secondaries in every way. But, saying that, it's because the late game weapons are just so stupidly imbalanced. You can pretty much buy a synoid with platinum nowadays, and that should cover you.


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If you want a quick guide to the best loadout, here it is:

Primary: Boltor/Soma prime. These two weapons are insane when modded, potatoed, and formad. Check their burst DP which I quoted above.

Secondary: Synoid Gammacor. This thing is capable of insane damage and it returns energy to you as part of the syndicate bonus.

Melee: Jat Kittag or Scindo Prime. They're the two best melee weapons in the game. Stick Cleaving Whirlwind on the Scindo and with a decent build, you won't be hitting for lower than 10k. But, The Jat Kittag provides more utility and has a higher status chance.

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Synoid Gammacor was recently nerfed. Its damage output is still comparable, but its ammo conservation is much worse and something to actually pay attention to now.

Heavy weapons like Jat Kittag and Scindo Prime are not the best. They have very poor mobility. If you're not into melee, you can stick with a Bo Prime or Tipedo for mobility. If you want good damage, Dakra Prime hit hard and allows you to move fast. Coptering all the way!
   
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 Absolutionis wrote:
Synoid Gammacor was recently nerfed. Its damage output is still comparable, but its ammo conservation is much worse and something to actually pay attention to now.

Heavy weapons like Jat Kittag and Scindo Prime are not the best. They have very poor mobility. If you're not into melee, you can stick with a Bo Prime or Tipedo for mobility. If you want good damage, Dakra Prime hit hard and allows you to move fast. Coptering all the way!


Really? I've got a friend with one, I need to ask him how it is for ammo. Although, we did get to wave 35 on a T3 before he started worrying about ammo, recently.


As for the Scindo Prime, Cleaving Whirlwind just makes it insane. You can use the spin combo to wade into a mob and kill everyone and their hopes and dreams. I understand the benefits of the Dakra Prime, but I
much prefer the utility of having a weapon capable of one shotting everything bar bosses, and putting the serious hurt on them.


UPDATE: I now own a Dex Furis and Dex Dakra. AFTER I potatoed and forma'd the Akzani. WELP. THANKS LOTUS.


UPDATE 2: Got a Dread.

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I use the soma prime and don't really care about my secondary i use the gammacore also, Throwing knives are supposed to be good for spy missions but the whole stealth doesn't work in this game.

For close combat i use the lecta or the Glaive, Modded the glaive does tremendous damage when thrown and it doesn't use ammo.
I like the lecta because it paralyses the enemy for a few seconds, very good against enemies that have higher level than your Tenno

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I currently use a stealth/disarm Loki Prime with a Burston Prime/Boltor/Latron Prime/Dread, Dex Furis/Gammacor, and Fang. Perma stealth, overextended Disarm and immense damage.


Either that, or I switch to my maxed out high energy+effiency Mesa

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My setup before I stopped was an ult-spam valkyrie using fang prime.

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 Melissia wrote:
My setup before I stopped was an ult-spam valkyrie using fang prime.



Oh, you mean the godmode valkyr using Rage+Quick Thinking? That's cool. Got nerfed a while back. She's one of the tankiest frames out there. Mine's at rank 12 and has 600 armour.

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Yeah, it probably was nerfed after I left though.


Also, Valkyr isn't just one of the tankiest, she is THE tankiest. With her armor-boosting shout she's vastly more durable than any other frame, and even her base is more durable than almost anyone.

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 Melissia wrote:
Yeah, it probably was nerfed after I left though.


Also, Valkyr isn't just one of the tankiest, she is THE tankiest. With her armor-boosting shout she's vastly more durable than any other frame, and even her base is more durable than almost anyone.


Currently Rhino is the tankiest. With some power strength boosters, he can get to 1500+ armour permanently. Most Rhinos you see in the end game will be a prime who will have their iron skin active near permanently.

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Valkyr with max armor and warcry activated has 1650 armor without any power strength buffs. With them, it soars higher, though most people don't put power strength on Valkyr-- duration is far more valuable.

Rhino with iron skin and warcry activated is tankier, but that still requires a Valkyr to be present.

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 Melissia wrote:
Valkyr with max armor and warcry activated has 1650 armor without any power strength buffs. With them, it soars higher, though most people don't put power strength on Valkyr-- duration is far more valuable.

Rhino with iron skin and warcry activated is tankier, but that still requires a Valkyr to be present.


Not really. A Valkyr still lacks the health and shields to be a high level tank. As, without Warcry, Valkyr is at 600 armour. A Rhino Prime can maintain iron skin permanently so that it absorbs 3408 damage in addition to the armour. BEFORE the application of any strength mods. So this means that Rhino can take 3408 damage before he starts losing shields. And that is what makes him the tankiest.

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 thedarkavenger wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
Valkyr with max armor and warcry activated has 1650 armor without any power strength buffs. With them, it soars higher, though most people don't put power strength on Valkyr-- duration is far more valuable.

Rhino with iron skin and warcry activated is tankier, but that still requires a Valkyr to be present.


Not really. A Valkyr still lacks the health and shields to be a high level tank. As, without Warcry, Valkyr is at 600 armour. A Rhino Prime can maintain iron skin permanently so that it absorbs 3408 damage in addition to the armour. BEFORE the application of any strength mods. So this means that Rhino can take 3408 damage before he starts losing shields. And that is what makes him the tankiest.
A properly modded Valkyr can absorb 5600+ damage before dying, BEFORE the application of warcry and her ultimate. And that's without the aura.

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 Melissia wrote:
 thedarkavenger wrote:
 Melissia wrote:
Valkyr with max armor and warcry activated has 1650 armor without any power strength buffs. With them, it soars higher, though most people don't put power strength on Valkyr-- duration is far more valuable.

Rhino with iron skin and warcry activated is tankier, but that still requires a Valkyr to be present.


Not really. A Valkyr still lacks the health and shields to be a high level tank. As, without Warcry, Valkyr is at 600 armour. A Rhino Prime can maintain iron skin permanently so that it absorbs 3408 damage in addition to the armour. BEFORE the application of any strength mods. So this means that Rhino can take 3408 damage before he starts losing shields. And that is what makes him the tankiest.
A properly modded Valkyr can absorb 5600+ damage before dying, BEFORE the application of warcry and her ultimate. And that's without the aura.



Bear in mind that the Rhino takes the 3408 before he starts losing his fully upgraded shields and health. And currently, as someone who plays both Valkyr and Rhino, her shields only get that high when the buff from Warcry is active. And at 75 energy a pop, you might as well build the rage+Quick thinking. Valkyr is one of the tankiest frames. But the two tankiest frames are Rhino. Due to the combo of shields/health/armour(potentially 15000 in Rhino's case).

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There is the Undying rage build for the valkyr.

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 Jehan-reznor wrote:
There is the Undying rage build for the valkyr.



That is the, now nerfed, rage+quick thinking build.

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It's still actually better, you just have to be intelligent instead of (pardon the phrase) a rhino in a china shop.

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 Melissia wrote:
It's still actually better, you just have to be intelligent instead of (pardon the phrase) a rhino in a china shop.



It really isn't. Whilst it does have a benefit in basic missions where you don't need a tank, in T2+ there is a metric tonne of corrosive. Which ignores shields and halves armour. Which is where the 15k armour and 4k damage absorb come in.

Mind you, both Valkyr and Rhino are pointless at T4.

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So I just took my woefully undermodded Loki into T4.(Only got a max rank overextended, stretch, flow, continuity and streamline on him.)

I got ruined quickly. This game needs to sort out the Visuals on stealth.

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