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Just like Draco said, with allies DA can be good.

They are, for one, the cheapest and most non-restricting way of getting a scouting SM Smashbane. I've played DA allied with SM, and I could do just fine against the more competitive builds.

Yeah, maybe not against Nanavati but to base an armys effectiveness solely against top 2% of the whole community is ridiculous at best.

It might be because my teenage years but does anyone else remember the golden age that was Dark Angels Codex 2.0 towards the end of 3rd Edition?

They were different from all the other marine armies. Could do things no other marine army could do. They were even good too.

That was about 10 years ago.

Have the Dark Angels really been bad for a decade now...?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
It might be because my teenage years but does anyone else remember the golden age that was Dark Angels Codex 2.0 towards the end of 3rd Edition?

They were different from all the other marine armies. Could do things no other marine army could do. They were even good too.

That was about 10 years ago.

Have the Dark Angels really been bad for a decade now...?

Yes.

Martel732 wrote:

 BrotherGecko wrote:
It might be because my teenage years but does anyone else remember the golden age that was Dark Angels Codex 2.0 towards the end of 3rd Edition?

They were different from all the other marine armies. Could do things no other marine army could do. They were even good too.

That was about 10 years ago.

Have the Dark Angels really been bad for a decade now...?

Yes.

Yeah pretty much.

They aren't bad it's just that their dated. Their a 6th edition codex that thinks it's still 5th edition thats being forced to fight in a 7th edition rulebook. It's horribly out of place in the universe and ad a result it's a misfit in sea of books written after that just make total sense.

The orks might have a bad book but they have more options that a Swiss army knife and this makes them unpredictable, the blood angels might have lost their flavor but they work well with the current rules edition, chaos might not be doing well either but they have THREE codex supplements it's hard to argue they don't have choices and ways to make their army work.

Dark angels are stuck with the bed they were given all that Times ago and imo it's unfair treatment