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Thanks everybody! I figured I had to go full distance, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

I must say, why do people need to include the petty little "you are wrong". After you've already attempted to disprove their statement and assert your own, there's no need for the 7th grade cheap shot. I do include it myself, but usually in full knowledge that it's a bit below the belt (usually in reply to a similar move on the other end).

Rules question: so if I can't complete the hit and run move, what then?

Also, does it have to be in a straight line away, or can I zig and zag to eat up inches?

 Lobukia wrote:
I must say, why do people need to include the petty little "you are wrong". After you've already attempted to disprove their statement and assert your own, there's no need for the 7th grade cheap shot. I do include it myself, but usually in full knowledge that it's a bit below the belt (usually in reply to a similar move on the other end).

Because the poster was stating information that was wrong, and as I expanded on in an earlier reply, was doing so without even supplying rules statements to support it.

It's only "7th grade" if you make an assumption of malice in my post that is simply not there.

Rules question: so if I can't complete the hit and run move, what then?

Cannot complete the move for what reason? Hit & Run tells us what happens if the result would cause the unit to come into base or hull contact with enemy units, but mentions nothing otherwise.

Also, does it have to be in a straight line away, or can I zig and zag to eat up inches?

Hit & Run tells you to choose a direction and move in that direction a distance equal to the 3D6 result. Zig-zagging should obviously involve moving in a direction other than the one chosen at some point during the Hit & Run move, which we don't have permission for.

Thank you for the rules clarifications. Why would one not assume malice when superfluous words are added that only have a demeaning function? What other motivation would be assigned other than malice?

I know when I use certain words, it carries a different weight, I cannot see how any other English speaker would not know the same.

At the very end, after all other combats have been resolved.

 Lobukia wrote:
Why would one not assume malice when superfluous words are added that only have a demeaning function? What other motivation would be assigned other than malice?

I know when I use certain words, it carries a different weight, I cannot see how any other English speaker would not know the same.

Stating someone is wrong following with taking or having already taken the time to politely explain to them why that was the case is not demeaning. Indeed, my statement of "You are wrong" was in direct, quoted reply to nosferatu1001 incorrectly calling someone else wrong.

On the other hand, implicitly calling someone a douche absolutely is demeaning, and yet despite that I remained polite, if direct.

Sorry to resurrect this thread, but an interesting scenario came up in a game I was playing tonight and I thought I would keep Hit-and-Run questions in a Hit-and-Run thread. A rather large unit (50 man guard blob with Commander Dante) was locked in close combat with the a very large unit (Green Tide) at my board edge. I wanted to Hit-and-Run out of combat, but the only direction I could go would be through the Green Tide. There was no way around. There is a diagram below to visually show what was happening on the board at the time and assume there are no open spaces between any models and the board edges.

My questions are:

1) Can I hit and run through my opponents models as long as I do not end my move with in 1" of an enemy model?

2) Can I Hit-and-Run if my unit is completely surrounded?

3) If I have a Jet Pack, do I get to jump over enemy models when I Hit-and-Run?

B = Board Edge
O = Ork Boy
G = Guardsman

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First off you should have made you're own thread. You're not suppose to necro-bump old threads.

1) You are only given permission to H&R through units that were in the combat you left.

2) You can H&R though units that are locked in your combat.

3) Doesn't have any effect on H&R as its a special rule.

It clearly says "At the end of the Assault Phase", meaning that all models had to have fought.

Yes, you can hit and run through enemy models, provided they were in the melee you just left.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
Move is defined as up to. The must means you must make a move, not make a full 3d6 " displacement, so you can indeed use only 8 of a 13 inch roll if you wish.

this is not true by raw,

you must also fall back when failing a moral check a distance BRB "equal to 2D6""

as we all know, you move the full distance when you fall back, as the rules explicitly state you move a distance equal to a dice roll.


its the same with hit and rule, there can be no rules based argument against this, Nos is wrong.

the rules for HAR say you move a distance *equal* to the result of 3D6, not up to, EQUAL. so you move a distance equal to it by RAW, moving up to when you are told to move equal to, is breaking a rule that is quite clear.

If you were correct nos, then falling back units can also choose to fall back "up to" the dice rolled, and choose to not fall back at all. Which we all know is wrong. Nos, you would have to prove that you can also fall back "up to" the dice rolled to have any sort of consistency, or accuracy to your assertion that every time a model moves for H+R or fall backs it gets to choose the distance moved.