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 pretre wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Yet I have never been banned from Dakka in the fifteen years I have been here.

You were part of the Dakkadakka brick and mortar store league?

IIRC I joined old Dakka early 2001, so just short of 15 years. I rounded up a little.

Probably closer to 2004.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_History_of_Dakka#The_Family_Years_%282004-2007%29

IIRC, the forums didn't expand past local until 2003-2004.

I've been on Dakka since back in the EZ Board days, which predates the store by a few years and I'm definitely not what you'd call 'local', having lived in the Cincinnati area almost all of my life.

 pretre wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:

 pretre wrote:

 Orlanth wrote:
Yet I have never been banned from Dakka in the fifteen years I have been here.

You were part of the Dakkadakka brick and mortar store league?

IIRC I joined old Dakka early 2001, so just short of 15 years. I rounded up a little.

Probably closer to 2004.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/The_History_of_Dakka#The_Family_Years_%282004-2007%29

IIRC, the forums didn't expand past local until 2003-2004.

2001, early 2002 at the very latest, yes Dakka was a store based website, but I never visited the store. BFG was in full swing and I searched online for forums for BFG to find info, and was led to Dakka. I actually became the main BFG guru of the Dakka of the day, and was known as the 'Fleet Commissar', back when Mauleed was the main authority on 40K.

 Orlanth wrote:
2001, early 2002 at the very latest, yes Dakka was a store based website, but I never visited the store. BFG was in full swing and I searched online for forums for BFG to find info, and was led to Dakka. I actually became the main BFG guru of the Dakka of the day, and was known as the 'Fleet Commissar', back when Mauleed was the main authority on 40K.

Yeah, I don't remember exactly when I signed up, but I've been on the forums since at least 2002.

 Orlanth wrote:
Dakka is IMHO hands down the best forum on the internet, bar none.

Perhaps naturally, I quite agree. And while, as a member of the moderator team here, I should like on behalf of said team to claim a large portion of the credit for that, it really is down to the core cadre of regular users who have been frequenting this site for years (yes, including the ones I most often disagree with in matters of religion, politics, and similar).

Well said - here's to the regular users and contributors!

 Orlanth wrote:
2001, early 2002 at the very latest, yes Dakka was a store based website, but I never visited the store. BFG was in full swing and I searched online for forums for BFG to find info, and was led to Dakka. I actually became the main BFG guru of the Dakka of the day, and was known as the 'Fleet Commissar', back when Mauleed was the main authority on 40K.

Fair enough!

 Alpharius wrote:
Well said - here's to the regular users and contributors!

We are unworthy!

Especially you BrookM, our prettiest user.

 Orlanth wrote:
Dakka is IMHO hands down the best forum on the internet, bar none.

Honestly, I find myself agreeing.

I have about 9000 posts on the official World of Warcraft forum, and that and here is the two places I frequent the most.

Said forum (specifically my realm subforum that I spend most of my time in) has mostly a good community, but it suffers a lot from its ineffective moderation.

For example, a group of not-very-nice guys made this video to bully a player they don't like. It's been up on the forum for days now. How long would it take for the Dakka mods to apply a banhammer to the subjects if the same thing was attempted here?



(To make it more understandable: The red thing you barely see is a 'dislike' button, as the forum uses a like/dislike rating system. The pasted-in faces are the avatars of the relevant posters.)

The mods on that forum are also far less involved in the community. It's much easier to be passive-aggressive and snide by making references that other players understand but go completely over the heads of the moderators.

 Orlanth wrote:

2001, early 2002 at the very latest, yes Dakka was a store based website, but I never visited the store. BFG was in full swing and I searched online for forums for BFG to find info, and was led to Dakka. I actually became the main BFG guru of the Dakka of the day, and was known as the 'Fleet Commissar', back when Mauleed was the main authority on 40K.

Good lord, we're getting old.

 Ashiraya wrote:


The mods on that forum are also far less involved in the community. It's much easier to be passive-aggressive and snide by making references that other players understand but go completely over the heads of the moderators.

Point of perspective. Moderators that are not, at the same time, active users can also be a benefit because they're less involved. While DakkaDakka in general has an outstanding moderation team, there have been cases where moderators ban-threatened or even warned / banned users in a debate after losing their cool and being /too/ involved in the topic.

Blizzard forums are run rather well but are nothing compared to Blizz forums years ago with very strict moderation. Sadly.

 Sigvatr wrote:
Blizzard forums are run rather well but are nothing compared to Blizz forums years ago with very strict moderation. Sadly.

They do very well covering up general spam and trolling, actually. It's just that some things go over their heads.

Dakka's team seems like the best of two worlds. They are involved, understanding and passionate, yet they are firm and won't take no bullgak.

 Ashiraya wrote:

Spoiler:

(To make it more understandable: The red thing you barely see is a 'dislike' button, as the forum uses a like/dislike rating system. The pasted-in faces are the avatars of the relevant posters.)

The mods on that forum are also far less involved in the community. It's much easier to be passive-aggressive and snide by making references that other players understand but go completely over the heads of the moderators.

THAT classifies as "bullying" these days?

Oi vey.

 Ashiraya wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:
Blizzard forums are run rather well but are nothing compared to Blizz forums years ago with very strict moderation. Sadly.

They do very well covering up general spam and trolling, actually. It's just that some things go over their heads.

Indeed they do. They were even better a few years ago...well...quite a few years actually now. I used to work as a moderator for Blizz forums and I have never seen a better moderation and, what matters more, the profesionnalism among mods that is unparalleled to this very date. Very clear guidelines, good supervision, good selection process etc.

 cincydooley wrote:


THAT classifies as "bullying" these days?

Oi vey.

It has a context, you know.

If the people are friends, arguably not.

If they already have a history of passive-aggressiveness and similar unpleasantries, a video where X user is depicted as executing Y user is surely not difficult to interpret as offensive.



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 Sigvatr wrote:
the profesionnalism among mods that is unparalleled to this very date.

As said, I think Dakka's is even better, but that is because they understand their community more and interacts with the community down on its own level, with its own things. Blizzard's moderators are more people who just appear, ban X user, delete Y post, but are much more secluded.

 Ashiraya wrote:


It has a context, you know.

If the people are friends, arguably not.

If they already have a history of passive-aggressiveness and similar unpleasantries, a video where X user is depicted as executing Y user is surely not difficult to interpret as offensive.

Sure it is.

You don't be a pussy and you turn your computer off.

Done.

Or feth, ridicule them for how slapdash the thing was. If someone feels "bullied" or gets "offended" by that, they they need to start shopping in the adult pants section.

 cincydooley wrote:

Sure it is.

You don't be a pussy and you turn your computer off..

Yup, the best answer to bullying is absolutely to stop doing the things you enjoy.

 insaniak wrote:

 cincydooley wrote:

Sure it is.

You don't be a pussy and you turn your computer off..

Yup, the best answer to bullying is absolutely to stop doing the things you enjoy.

If you say so. Can't say I've had the pleasure.

 Ashiraya wrote:


As said, I think Dakka's is even better, but that is because they understand their community more and interacts with the community down on its own level, with its own things. Blizzard's moderators are more people who just appear, ban X user, delete Y post, but are much more secluded.

That's what I intended to express with "professionalism". Professional mods aren't "better" by any kind of objective standards. Some prefer professional mods, some prefer more "down to earth" mods who get in touch with users.

 Sigvatr wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:


As said, I think Dakka's is even better, but that is because they understand their community more and interacts with the community down on its own level, with its own things. Blizzard's moderators are more people who just appear, ban X user, delete Y post, but are much more secluded.

That's what I intended to express with "professionalism". Professional mods aren't "better" by any kind of objective standards. Some prefer professional mods, some prefer more "down to earth" mods who get in touch with users.

'Professional', to me, implies that they are simply very good at their jobs and no-nonsense about it.

That applies to Dakka's mods as well.

Instead of discussing semantics, let's agree to have different definitions of "professional" and that almost every mod on Dakka does a great job

 Sigvatr wrote:
Instead of discussing semantics, let's agree to have different definitions of "professional" and that almost every mod on Dakka does a great job

Except when the random BANEings start.

It doesn't matter who the moderators are, what matters is their plan.

Ah yes, their plan.

You're all just lucky that the Emperor and the Sigillite still hold sway here...


...for now...

 Alpharius wrote:
You're all just lucky that the Emperor and the Sigillite still hold sway here...


...for now...

So if that is Yak and Lego, that would make the Mods the Custodes. So who is Horus?


(I can't ask who is Alpharius because we all know that answer )

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
(I can't ask who is Alpharius because we all know that answer )

I am...

Ha!

The Mods definitely are NOT Custodes!

I have fun figuring out which Mod is which Primarch - some actually fit quite well!

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
So if that is Yak and Lego, that would make the Mods the Custodes. So who is Horus?

That will be the mod who locks this thread for being seriously off topic

 Alpharius wrote:
Ha!

The Mods definitely are NOT Custodes!

I have fun figuring out which Mod is which Primarch - some actually fit quite well!

Are you allowed to give us clues, or is that true-Alpha-Legion-loyalty levels of secret?

Dakka is definitely not the best forum I've posted on. It's not the worst either, but it's pretty bad.