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 Fezman wrote:
Coming soon: FAQs you have to pay for?

They already tried that with Stronghold Assault, which included errata for the rulebook Fortifications.

 
   
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Bharring wrote:
a crowd funded direction is probably not the best option. Not only is that risking going commercial (which would be very bad),


I actually think that, based on things that GW has said publically, another company could produce and sell rulebooks for a game that was created with the intent of using GW models. Since GW has publically made the claim several times that they're a modelling company, not a game company, then they shouldn't have any objection to another company creating and profiting off of a rules set based around using their models, right? If they're a modelling company, another company pushing sales of their models can only improve their sales, right? And since they're not attempting to claim them for themselves, said company could even use the proper names for the models, like "Space Marines" and "Dark Eldar Archon" in their books because it'd be referencing a real-life product that they're encouraging you to buy from another company in order to play using their set of rules. This would all fall under the "Fair Use" exception to copyright law, so long as you consider the miniatures essentially a seperate entity from the "game" that is Warhammer 40k.

The most legally defensible way to set it up would be to create an entirely new game system, with new fluff and everything, but just make it compatible with GW models. You could even still produce your own range of models, so long as they're "different enough" to not look exactly like GW stuff, while keeping the scale the same so that people who spent a lot of time and money on 40k could transition over to your game system without a huge investment by using their existing models. This is about the only way another company could get the "critical mass" of players that was mentioned earlier to switch to their system.

Of course, if and when a company did this, they'd need to be prepared to fight in court, because GW would definitely sue. Unfortunately for GW, if you handle things properly, they can't win a lawsuit in which all you did was encourage your customers to buy their models. Mentioning the name of someone else's models in your book isn't a violation of copyright or trademark law if you're making reference to a product that they actually sell.

That said, GW is the evil empire, and as soon as they realize that they won't win the lawsuit against you, they will adopt a completely different approach. They'll suddenly be a gaming company again. They will transform their website to have forums, and interact with their customers, and do all of those wonderful things we think a gaming company -should- do. And it will work. They'll get all their customers back, and maybe even some more. It might even turn GW into the company we all want it to be, once they realise they can get more customers that way.

And all it will require is the death of 1 company that actually tried to do something good for the consumers/gamers who will, inevitably, not show enough gratitude to keep them around. Then begins the cycle anew.

There is NO SUCH THING as MORE ADVANCED in 40k!!! There are ONLY 2 LEVELS of RULES: Basic and Advanced. THE END. Stop saying "More Advanced". That is not a recognized thing in modern 40k!!!!
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Why fix something you are just going to replace in a year.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 Fezman wrote:
BlackSwanDelta wrote:
I really don't think it goes deeper than money.

Having people sitting around writing FAQs costs money and doesn't generate revenue. Why have people writing rules for free when you are in the business of selling (by their own admission) sub-par rules in pretty books for premium prices?

"Forge the narrative" is nothing but corporate speak for "now you get less content and support for more money". What company wouldn't love an idea like that?


Coming soon: FAQs you have to pay for?


What do you mean "coming soon." Have you seen some of the Codex "updates"? Copy paste jobs that we pay for.

 
   
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Noone at GW is responsible for rules-writing in general. Fetch the closest intern, done.

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 Desubot wrote:
Why fix something you are just going to replace in a year.


There you go, the answer right here
   
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 Accolade wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
Why fix something you are just going to replace in a year.


There you go, the answer right here


Well, I've played one game in seventh. with that level of play I don't particularly care. But I want to keep this game strong going into the future. How to fix things? go back to fifth or sixth. no allied transports, no strD or superheavy or gargantuan models in non apoc games. Flyers, I don't particularly mind, but I wouldn't mind going back to 5th rules for them.

If we want to stay in seventh, less random. go back to codex psychic powers, choose a warlord trait, end ally matrix.

The last, could be a 'swinging door' for GW. Meaning, I wouldn't mind it if in the next edition they do away with the ally rules, then in the one after, bring it back, then in the one after, stop it, and so on. If editions are 4-5 years apart, then such a 'rotating door' could fit a marketing strategy to boost sales.

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rules come and go, models are forever...like herpes.
 
   
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Editions won't stay 4-5 years apart. Heck, the editions are clearly not about improving the game- it's just about mixing things up. Obviously some people enjoy that, as it keeps things fresh, but the price tag to keep up is outrageous. The new codexes are now hitting about two years in duration, and I won't be surprised if it keeps up. GW is just looking at ways to boost their profit without making new models as much as possible- gaming aids is their target. Rule books are an easy target because they're largely recycled. I mean, think about how much new rules content comes in a new book and it becomes clear how little work they are.

GW also likes to think of themselves as the Ferrari or Louis Vetton of tabletop gaming, and only the privileged few deserve to buy their models.
   
 
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