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God the thread title made me burst out laughing.
   
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Just to get back on track. This thread is not concerned with with canon contradiction.
That belongs to another thread. Feel free to start one.
It's to do with identifying the artistic license taken by authors of 40k novels in their descriptions of daemonic manifestations, as per the original post in this thread.

Psienesis wrote: If you took the various portfolios of all the Ruinous Powers, and combined them into one, over-arching philosophy, as maddening and self-contradictory as that would be, and stripped it of the individual consciousnesses attributed to the Dark Gods and, instead, applied to it a sort of proto-sentience... something like an "Overmind in the Warp", then you're closer to what Chaos Undivided is.


It's representations of this in the novels that are closer to the subject of this thread. The "Overmind," meaning the ill-defined ambiguity of the warp as a speudo-gestalt consciousness or will.
I deliberately refrained from using the term Chaos Undivided in the Thread title to avoid confusing the issue. That does not seem to have been helpful though

lcmiracle wrote:
 Harriticus wrote:
Know No Fear has a lot of unaligned daemons btw reading through bits. Some crazy blood thing attacks Guilliman then spawns crazy looking stuff all over his ship.


Are they unaligned or are their alignment just never mentioned? For all we knew Samus the Prince of Ruinstorm could have been of any alignment. Yet its final appearance and description bears strong resemblance to a Khornate daemon.


The reference to Know No Fear is spot on! I'm looking for similar stuff though it doesn't need to be identical. I'm glad Abnett didn't "align" the daemons assaulting Macragge's Honour. He didn't want Blood Letters or Daemonettes running around the ship. It seems he wanted to confront the Astartes with Chaos-as-Cosmic-Horror , i.e. Horror in the tradition of H.P. Lovecraft. And I think that's quite profound.

I'd love to find more stuff like this in the novels. So if you know of any, please share them.

Cheers

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Well, the daemonic effects in the first story in Architect of Fate are explicitly Tzeentchian, but they're not identifiable as any known Tzeentnch daemons (except the obvious one) - they instead draw on typical ghost story and horror movie inspiration.



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