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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:31:10
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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agnosto wrote:A. You don't need to know what a bear is or looks like to be molested by a bear OK I am now going to put this on my list of least desired things to happen to me.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:35:12
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Fixture of Dakka
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Frazzled wrote: agnosto wrote:A. You don't need to know what a bear is or looks like to be molested by a bear
OK I am now ging to put this on my list of least desired things to happen to me.
Just imagine a weiner dog x 1000
Would you rather be molested by a coconut?
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:38:45
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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That is what you get for napping under weirdo trees. Should have stuck with napping under a good old-fashioned ordinary pine tree instead (or even better yet, don't nap under pine trees in general, it is common sense).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:39:01
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I say Ixnay on the Frazzledey Moletsey!!!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:40:36
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Master Tormentor
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You're right. Clearly coffee this hot is perfectly safe (link probably NSFW). What was the jury thinking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:43:34
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Fixture of Dakka
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That's a pretty good paper cup that somehow protects your hand from mouth meltingly hot coffee but you don't feel a thing holding it to warrant a little hesitancy before taking a giant gulp.
Meh. I have an opinion that differs with the court's the world continues to turn.
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:43:43
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Fixture of Dakka
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streamdragon wrote:16 pound pine cone? Holy crap. That's basically a bowling ball falling on your head. I'm honestly a little shocked he survived.
Polynesians that I know say it's not good to linger under Coconut trees, either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:45:05
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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"You have a lovely pair of coconuts."
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 20:45:26
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Fixture of Dakka
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Relapse wrote: streamdragon wrote:16 pound pine cone? Holy crap. That's basically a bowling ball falling on your head. I'm honestly a little shocked he survived.
Polynesians that I know say it's not good to linger under Coconut trees, either.
And amazingly they don't feel the need to sue their government. Shocker.
I've lived in two other countries and visited numerous more and the US seems the be the only place where people are coddled to the extent where they can sue people for their own stupidity. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Why thank you, I've always thought that I have a lovely bunch of cocunuts, doodly dee. Here they are standing in a row...
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Six mistakes mankind keeps making century after century: Believing that personal gain is made by crushing others; Worrying about things that cannot be changed or corrected; Insisting that a thing is impossible because we cannot accomplish it; Refusing to set aside trivial preferences; Neglecting development and refinement of the mind; Attempting to compel others to believe and live as we do |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:09:15
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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So the argument is that just because the National Park Service violated their own policy and resulted in the grevoius injury of a person, the national park service should not be held responsible?
I mean, the fact that they had this policy in place makes it look like they knew there was a chance that this could happen. I know that the US is a litigious society, but this suit seems reasonable.
For people on the other side, when do you think it is reasonable to sue the government / institution /etc?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:22:21
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Fixture of Dakka
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AdeptSister wrote:So the argument is that just because the National Park Service violated their own policy and resulted in the grevoius injury of a person, the national park service should not be held responsible?
I mean, the fact that they had this policy in place makes it look like they knew there was a chance that this could happen. I know that the US is a litigious society, but this suit seems reasonable.
For people on the other side, when do you think it is reasonable to sue the government / institution /etc?
It's a fact of life that when you're in the woods, gak can fall on you. Pine cones, branches, even whole trees. If I saw some big assed seeds hanging in a tree, I sure as hell wouldn't camp under them and take a nap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:24:07
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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AdeptSister wrote:So the argument is that just because the National Park Service violated their own policy and resulted in the grevoius injury of a person, the national park service should not be held responsible? I mean, the fact that they had this policy in place makes it look like they knew there was a chance that this could happen. I know that the US is a litigious society, but this suit seems reasonable. For people on the other side, when do you think it is reasonable to sue the government / institution /etc? So its their fault for putting up warning signs. If only they hadn't tried to help people, they wouldn't have to pay $5mm. Mmmm I see what the problem is. "Jack, throw all those signs in the trash!" Its effectively arguing a strict liability standard for a completely voluntary act. Secondly, how is a private party suing the government? Where are they getting a right to make a claim against the sovereign?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/13 21:30:30
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:26:59
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Yes, the stupid thing about this lawsuit is that the fact one should not nap under pine trees is common sense.
It is like going for a walk on the highway, getting hit by a truck, and then sueing the government for not putting up warning signs. No amount of warning signs can protect from a lack of common sense.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:30:01
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
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Here's the thing, park policy has nothing to do with the legal issue. They could have a park policy about all people sleeping under trees must have one of those pine-cones shoved up their ass, and it would make no difference. Whether or not they violated their own policy, has nothing to do with the legal issue at hand. Edit: wow, I just got triple nijaed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:33:17
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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And being triple ninjad' by a conservative, a ghost wiener dog, and a balloon puppy making Putin no less!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:43:25
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Drop Trooper with Demo Charge
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I rolled my ankle on a Pine Cone, those things can be deadly!
I could barely walk for like 2 weeks! It was one solid pine cone...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 21:45:31
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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agnosto wrote:A. You don't need to know what a bear is or looks like to be molested by a bear just like you don't need to know what a coconut looks like to be struck in the head by one.
What's your point?
B. I think the court was wrong on that one but whatevs.
So you think a company should not have any liability when they deliberately heat their coffee well beyond the normal temperature of coffee, create a safety hazard that does not exist with normal coffee, and fail to give any warning that their coffee is dangerously hot and requires much greater care to avoid spills than normal coffee? Would it also be ok if they served hydroflouric acid labeled "coffee" and blamed the customer for not bringing a pH test to make sure that wasn't dangerous?
C. You know what this is; this is an ambulance chaser trying to maximize sympathy for his client. He's a a navy veteran, just as easy to call it PTSD, link it to his service and run from there.
It's amazing how you can diagnose someone from a brief news article and conclusively say that calling it PTSD is "ambulance chasing". You should sell your services and revolutionize the entire medical profession. Automatically Appended Next Post: Co'tor Shas wrote:Here's the thing, park policy has nothing to do with the legal issue. They could have a park policy about all people sleeping under trees must have one of those pine-cones shoved up their ass, and it would make no difference. Whether or not they violated their own policy, has nothing to do with the legal issue at hand.
Of course it has to do with the legal issue, because the whole point of the policy is to prevent accidents like this. They recognized that a safety hazard existed and refused to fix the problem. That makes them liable for any harm that happens as a result. Automatically Appended Next Post: Iron_Captain wrote:Yes, the stupid thing about this lawsuit is that the fact one should not nap under pine trees is common sense.
No it isn't common sense, because a normal pine tree is not dangerous. Getting hit on the head with a normal pinecone is a minor injury at worst, and probably nothing more than "  ING PINE TREES!!!".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 22:20:43
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Squatting with the squigs
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They need to put up a sign about fething pine trees because one time I got in a knotty situation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 22:32:38
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Peregrine wrote: Co'tor Shas wrote:Here's the thing, park policy has nothing to do with the legal issue. They could have a park policy about all people sleeping under trees must have one of those pine-cones shoved up their ass, and it would make no difference. Whether or not they violated their own policy, has nothing to do with the legal issue at hand.
Of course it has to do with the legal issue, because the whole point of the policy is to prevent accidents like this. They recognized that a safety hazard existed and refused to fix the problem. That makes them liable for any harm that happens as a result.
No... simply recognizing that something could be an issue does not make it thier fault.
Iron_Captain wrote:Yes, the stupid thing about this lawsuit is that the fact one should not nap under pine trees is common sense.
No it isn't common sense, because a normal pine tree is not dangerous. Getting hit on the head with a normal pinecone is a minor injury at worst, and probably nothing more than "  ING PINE TREES!!!".
What about branches? I don't know about you, but where I'm from branches (and sometimes entire trees) fall down all the time. Especially if the tree is old, or there's been a storm recently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 22:34:39
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you put up a sign branches don't fall down or if they do they harmlessly bounce of the special snowflake field that those signs hand out to those humans within eyeshot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 22:54:20
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Can I sue the Met Office when it rains and I get wet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/13 22:57:11
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Lol if this goes through, everyone who's ever been bit by a shark at a public beach has a case of a warning wasn't posted. This is truly a terrifying precedent.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 00:22:22
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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streamdragon wrote:16 pound pine cone? Holy crap. That's basically a bowling ball falling on your head. I'm honestly a little shocked he survived.
There are photos of him online, his head is literally caved in.
With regards to suing... The guy sustained some pretty horrendous injuries, and is probably left with some degree of disability in addition to all his medical costs. I don't really want to speculate on whether he should receive compensation, but I certainly don't blame him for trying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 00:28:10
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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I've Washington pine tree's all around...couple redwood pines by my house.....damn I seriously have to get a pellet rifle to ping cones off the branches
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:10:38
Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Just remember not to hit the guy sleeping under the tree Jihadin. safety first.
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Subject: Re:Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:28:38
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Frazzled wrote:I have two pine trees in front of the Houston house. Huge mothers, maybe hundred feet tall (at least from looking up). The pine cones are like ounces in weight.
Imagining something weighing lbs is like plants right out of the Carniferous Period.
I hate having trees towering over my house. I have a mulberry tree that I keep trimmed back and a Pine I am getting ready to take out. Other than that, I have some low growing fruit trees that put out some good apples and apricots.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:39:05
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Fixture of Dakka
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I always wonder if Peregrine is just playing Devil's Advocate or is just a sophisticated troll.
Yes, the park may had to put op signs, especially big signs with simple drawing as it seems that people these days cannot use common sense or read or use their frikkin brain.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:59:00
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Jehan-reznor wrote:Yes, the park may had to put op signs, especially big signs with simple drawing as it seems that people these days cannot use common sense or read or use their frikkin brain.
I guess you missed the part where the tree in question is one that most people probably don't even know exists (and should have been removed from the park)? It's hard to use "common sense" to avoid something you don't know about. The real failure of common sense was by park management when they failed to follow their own policies on removing non-native species that create a safety hazard and allowed a tree that drops skull-crushing "pinecones" to exist in a high-traffic area.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/14 02:59:01
Subject: Man attempts to sue the National Park Service for $5mm after Pine Cone hits him in the Head
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Peregrine wrote: agnosto wrote:A. You don't need to know what a bear is or looks like to be molested by a bear just like you don't need to know what a coconut looks like to be struck in the head by one.
What's your point?
What? You're the person who repeatedly stressed that these were unrecognizable hazard trees because they weren't indigenous. Ok...... You don't have to be a botanist to notice large pine cones hanging from a tree and think, "oh crap, that could really hurt me if it falls down." You think someone ready to sleep under a tree would take the time to ensure there weren't snakes, spiders or, I don't know, ginormous freaking pine cones.
So you think a company should not have any liability when they deliberately heat their coffee well beyond the normal temperature of coffee, create a safety hazard that does not exist with normal coffee, and fail to give any warning that their coffee is dangerously hot and requires much greater care to avoid spills than normal coffee? Would it also be ok if they served hydroflouric acid labeled "coffee" and blamed the customer for not bringing a pH test to make sure that wasn't dangerous?
Here's how Tort law works because you appear to be willfully ignorant. You sue for damages due to some malfeasance or omission on the part of the defendant; the burden of proof is upon you to prove that they were negligent. BUT The court will also examine what a reasonable and prudent person would do. The assumption in Tort law is that a reasonable and prudent person will take necessary steps to ensure their continued good health by avoiding injury.
In the McDonald's case, the Plaintiff's attorney convinced a jury that McDonalds' coffee was somehow magically hotter than any other restaurant in the entire universe, even restaurants with the same equipment that produced said beverage. In the case, it was factually stated that the coffee was 180 to 190 degrees f; the average temperature for hot beverages is 160-185 degrees ( http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18226454). It was a BS basis for a claim but the jury took the bait and awarded the poor old lady a tidy sum; $160k in medical and compensatory damages and $2.7 in punitive damages. The judge realized that it was all BS and a grab for cash and lowered it to $640k.
Here's the killer. The jury even realized it was a bit silly and found the plaintiff 20% at fault through comparative negligence because who the feth sits around in her sons parked car while their burned by coffee that they, themselves spilt? There was a warning on the cup that the contents were hot but the jury took it upon themselves to decide that the warning wasn't big enough...kind of like how the warnings were big enough on cigarettes and now the entire pack is covered in a big-ass warning and guess what? People still smoke, just like people still spill hot coffee on themselves. News flash, coffee's still served at the same temperature and people still try to sue but this case is the only one that ever was able to convince a jury that someone else was responsible for the person spilling hot coffee on themselves.
I'm not going to entertain your strawman about acid because that's just dumb and you should be ashamed for even typing it.
What I typed: C. You know what this is; this is an ambulance chaser trying to maximize sympathy for his client. He's a a navy veteran, just as easy to call it PTSD, link it to his service and run from there.
It's amazing how you can diagnose someone from a brief news article and conclusively say that calling it PTSD is "ambulance chasing". You should sell your services and revolutionize the entire medical profession.
I said nothing like that. I said that it's just as easy to blame his inability to leave his house on his having served in the military inferring they could sue the military. Hell, maybe his attorney could blame being stupid enough to sleep under trees in a public park on some weird narcoleptic seizure brought about by the scent of the pine cones. Whatever. Once shady attorneys smell blood in the water, they're after all of the money that they can get because they're eating 20-30% of whatever comes in; I've worked around some and it's not pretty. It's very common for lawsuits such as this to include items that are next to impossible to diagnose and easy to fake; I'm not saying that's the case here, I don't know and I couldn't care less, but if it quakes like a duck...
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