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No, no it doesn't. It might to some people, but since those people aren't buying your models or running your games, feth what they think.

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This might matter if we were talking about Flames of War or Hail Caesar where there are matters of historical fact involved, but all of this is made up; it doesn't matter whether you or I prefer to play in the current setting, the 1st edition setting or a mish-mash of all the different information together, or leave bits out. All that's required for civil conversation is for those of us who remember the old material to make it clear when we reminisce, to avoid confusion.

As it happens there's not much that can't be reconciled with a goo dose of "unreliable narrator"; for example, I could come up with a way to combine the "Orks breed in small communities in the wilderness" with "Orks breed via spores" if I gave it a bit of thought.

Years ago, the game was more open to that sort of speculation. Partly it was because there were fewer details fleshed out, but I blame the Internet, too. You can be trying to have a nice conversation about the story you want to tell about how Ork society works, but then someone comes in and shouts you down because some crappy novel said something different. No gak, Sherlock; that's not the point.

I once played a Mighty Empire campaign over the course of a summer, where I played Undead. My Empire was a utopian paradise where the dead did the work so the living could live a life of ease. Funnily enough, we managed that without anyone once complaining that that's not what Nagash is all about, or that's not how souls work in Warhammer.
   
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 Mantorok wrote:
I think the whole Necrons are an elder race from ancient times thing is propaganda.

They're very clearly created by the Old Ones (AKA Gork an Mork) so that they can act as a counterpart for the Orkz in the Great Waaagh and give them a fight.

The Ctan were revolutionary terrorists who believed that the Necrons should be free to choose their own path in life, and gave the Necrons sentience.

They did this cause they hate the Warp (since Gork an Mork are the embodiment of the Warp) and they wanna fight G/M cause they got made fun of for not being able to walk and havin to fly all the time.

They didn't expect to be destroyed/enslaved by the Necrons true nature of Robo-Orkz for their goodwill, though.

Alls going according to plan for G/M, except for one thing.
Tyranids (aka The Emperor).

Unbenknownst to even GorkaMorka, the Emperornids have planted a seed of treachery in the innocent orks midst.
THE SQUIGS.
Both the Squigs and the Nids eat all the time. See?

You may think, how is the Emperor of MANKIND the leader of the Tyranids too?
Well, think about it dummy!
Bugs are hard on the outside and squishy on the inside, right?
Well humans are squishy on the outside and hard on the Inside.
See the similarities now?



Wow, you just made me think that the emperor actually is the nids..
Who are they attracted to?
They are coming to kill him and free him from the golden throne.
He has lost faith in the empire and wants it dead, and he wants all competition from other races gone, nids will do it.

And when the nids has gathered all the dna in the galaxy, the emperor will use it to create a new empire and repopulate.
   
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I take the Codexes/suppliments as Propaganda. They are made to make the faction(s) in the book look awesome so you'll actually play them. The Events may have happened, but with a slight twist that favors the faction.

I think the BL books are what actually happens. Yeah the Main characters might pull off some unbelievable stuff, but that's literally what Fantasy and Sci-fi heroes are supposed to do. The Impossible to save the day.


 
   
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Omadon's Realm

Everything you have been told is a lie...



 
   
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USA

The main thing? I disregard as propaganda anything that suggests Space Marines are unstoppable battlegods of the apocalypse.

There's a lot of reasons for this. Because it's boring. Because it doesn't match up with the rest of the lore. Because believing in it requires one to insult everything else in the lore. Because there's nothing actually IN what makes up a Space Marine that would suggest they are capable of it. And so on and so forth.

That really goes for ANY faction though.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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