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 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
One of the funny builds for Inquisition is to take a bare naked inquisitor and then run max squads of jokaero. Once you reach the maximum, buy another naked inquisitor and do it again until you fill up the points.

It's the "Lethal Joke Character" army of 40k; you get enough lascannon shots on your first turn to completely obliterate your opponent's army (or at least a huge chunk of it). But if he gets to fire anything back, you are screwed. It's nicknamed the "Barrel of Monkeys" list.

Hahahahahaha. That sounds amazing

Also I would recommend at least one Valkyrie or Land Raider Crusader for Transport. It's a decent in-game unit but more importantly it's a ride for your Inquisitor; she should be above such pedestrian notions such as walking.

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
Also I would recommend at least one Valkyrie or Land Raider Crusader for Transport. It's a decent in-game unit but more importantly it's a ride for your Inquisitor; she should be above such pedestrian notions such as walking.

Hahaha, so a Chimera isn't enough? I actually like the idea of a Valkyrie. Might do that.

I missed the chimera in the list, but I personally prefer the valk over it.

It's cooler

Would actually make sense too I suppose. If she (I), had business somewhere too far to drive, a flyer would work.

Also, yes. I did address her as I. I like to have a model to represent me in the game. You know, just because. Haha.

I have a Ordo Xenos inquisitor (also a woman) that I wrote several stories of for my creative writing class. On the tabletop I use the Space Marine's 1st Company Task Force to represent her retinue of Deathwatch Space Marines (who are to the Xenos inquisitor as SoBs are to Hereticus). I've had the idea of using the acolytes to represent various alien mercenaries she would hire (she's fairly open minded, although this ends up pissing off her Deathwatch bodyguard a lot since...well it goes against their code. But they put up with her due to a blood oath).

 MechaEmperor7000 wrote:
I have a Ordo Xenos inquisitor (also a woman) that I wrote several stories of for my creative writing class. On the tabletop I use the Space Marine's 1st Company Task Force to represent her retinue of Deathwatch Space Marines (who are to the Xenos inquisitor as SoBs are to Hereticus). I've had the idea of using the acolytes to represent various alien mercenaries she would hire (she's fairly open minded, although this ends up pissing off her Deathwatch bodyguard a lot since...well it goes against their code. But they put up with her due to a blood oath).

That actually sounds pretty amazing. Perhaps you would share some of your stories one day? I'd very much like to read them.

I may, but I didn't post em cuz the creative writing class didn't like me writing fanfics, so I had to "Creatively" disguise them, but I made it obvious enough that anyone reading them would get the idea that it's part of 40k.

How creative of you. Haha.

Problem with that is neither the valkyrie nor the land raider have fire points, so the unit inside isn't going to be shooting at anything until it dissembarks.

Moreover, the LRC is a more close-range variant (which isn't a bad thing, certainly better than the inconsistent vanilla model) and as an assault vehicle it synergizes better with a unit geared for assault. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you had a beatstick daemon hunter inquisitor or Xenos grenadier with a posse of crusaders and arco-flagellants.

One thing that I keep fantasizing about is Inquisitorial Stormtroopers. All you'd have to do is use the Astra Militarum book, put some Forgeworld Inquisition doors on the Chimera, and then load those Chimera up with Tempestus Scions in Inquisitorial colors. Make the icon on their knees and shoulders the =][= of the Inquisition. Then your HQ is the Inquisitor with his retinue, and by the way, the retinue is the best part of playing Inquisition. You could have anything you want to counts-as henchmen. There are SO MANY great conversions done for Inquisitorial Henchmen, in fact, Warhammer: Visions has a segment in it called Blanchetzu (if I'm spelling that right) that centers around grim-looking miniatures, and it frequently features models that were custom-made to be a part of an Inquisitorial retinue. One of them that I read had the guy just sketch out a character entirely from his imagination and then go hunting for the bits he needed to turn that character into a reality. The result was mind-blowingly close. I wish I knew which Visions issue that was...

Inquisition can be adcent stand alone army it really can.
It is just that you aren't one of the big new top tier armies. But who cares about that. Dont be fooled that you only have one unit that unit has more diversity then most armies have.

Things to concider.
-NEVER add assasins out of "codex" assasins to make your army stronger assasins are not worth their point.
-only start inc if you like converting stuff. The codex has a huge variation of nice henchmen builds but there are only a few models available now.
-make hechmen units eith a single purpose in mind. Dont make all round units whi half if the time cant use their gear.
-psiker spamm is a serious option in this army
-psybolt dual heavy bolter chimeras arent bad at all.
-always add a priest to any kind of close combat unit.
-protect your t3 hqs they dont like "mid str" weapons at all.
- the grenades and mund shackle thinhies are othe most evil items in 40k
-death culth assasin blobs need a landraider



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Check ebay there are pots of great oop inq models and hechmen. Check the web for great conve4sion projects there are tons of them

My main piece of list advice would be that if you're taking a Canoness, the Cloak of St. Aspira is a really weak choice, for two reasons.

Firstly, it does not let you reroll the 4++ invulnerable save from the Rosarius, meaning it wo't benefit you against the majority of things you want to protect her against. Effectively you're spending 20 points to reroll your 3+, when she can transfer incoming shots onto her squadmates on a 2+ anyway.

Secondly, the Mantle of Ophelia is a mere 5 points more and grants Eternal Warrior, which means that it doesn't matter what the enemy shoots or stabs her with, they still need to do it three times to actually put her down.

Without it, a multilaser will one-shot her. With it, she can resist artillery shells and orbital bombardments.

Other than that, when it comes to converting, experiment a lot. Designing kitbash characters is one of my favourite parts of the hobby, and not everything's come out well, but when it works, boy does it look awesome - and its not as hard as you think.

Captain Joystick wrote:Problem with that is neither the valkyrie nor the land raider have fire points, so the unit inside isn't going to be shooting at anything until it dissembarks.

Moreover, the LRC is a more close-range variant (which isn't a bad thing, certainly better than the inconsistent vanilla model) and as an assault vehicle it synergizes better with a unit geared for assault. I wouldn't really recommend it unless you had a beatstick daemon hunter inquisitor or Xenos grenadier with a posse of crusaders and arco-flagellants.

Ah, you're right. I completely forgot about fire points. I still like the Valkyrie though. I'm just after what looks cool. Thank you for the reminder anyway.

Quarterdime wrote:One thing that I keep fantasizing about is Inquisitorial Stormtroopers. All you'd have to do is use the Astra Militarum book, put some Forgeworld Inquisition doors on the Chimera, and then load those Chimera up with Tempestus Scions in Inquisitorial colors. Make the icon on their knees and shoulders the =][= of the Inquisition. Then your HQ is the Inquisitor with his retinue, and by the way, the retinue is the best part of playing Inquisition. You could have anything you want to counts-as henchmen. There are SO MANY great conversions done for Inquisitorial Henchmen, in fact, Warhammer: Visions has a segment in it called Blanchetzu (if I'm spelling that right) that centers around grim-looking miniatures, and it frequently features models that were custom-made to be a part of an Inquisitorial retinue. One of them that I read had the guy just sketch out a character entirely from his imagination and then go hunting for the bits he needed to turn that character into a reality. The result was mind-blowingly close. I wish I knew which Visions issue that was...

Someone told me about that segment before, but thank you anyway. And yeah, I'm pretty excited to start converting some models. I haven't tried to convert anything yet, so it's a new avenue.
Wish me luck.

oldzoggy wrote:Inquisition can be adcent stand alone army it really can.
It is just that you aren't one of the big new top tier armies. But who cares about that. Dont be fooled that you only have one unit that unit has more diversity then most armies have.

Things to concider.
-NEVER add assasins out of "codex" assasins to make your army stronger assasins are not worth their point.
-only start inc if you like converting stuff. The codex has a huge variation of nice henchmen builds but there are only a few models available now.
-make hechmen units eith a single purpose in mind. Dont make all round units whi half if the time cant use their gear.
-psiker spamm is a serious option in this army
-psybolt dual heavy bolter chimeras arent bad at all.
-always add a priest to any kind of close combat unit.
-protect your t3 hqs they dont like "mid str" weapons at all.
- the grenades and mund shackle thinhies are othe most evil items in 40k
-death culth assasin blobs need a landraider



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Check ebay there are pots of great oop inq models and hechmen. Check the web for great conve4sion projects there are tons of them

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm taking the Assassin in the list because of theme. A lot of my list is focussed on anti-psyker. Plus I like the look of the model.

Furyou Miko wrote:My main piece of list advice would be that if you're taking a Canoness, the Cloak of St. Aspira is a really weak choice, for two reasons.

Firstly, it does not let you reroll the 4++ invulnerable save from the Rosarius, meaning it wo't benefit you against the majority of things you want to protect her against. Effectively you're spending 20 points to reroll your 3+, when she can transfer incoming shots onto her squadmates on a 2+ anyway.

Secondly, the Mantle of Ophelia is a mere 5 points more and grants Eternal Warrior, which means that it doesn't matter what the enemy shoots or stabs her with, they still need to do it three times to actually put her down.

Without it, a multilaser will one-shot her. With it, she can resist artillery shells and orbital bombardments.

Other than that, when it comes to converting, experiment a lot. Designing kitbash characters is one of my favourite parts of the hobby, and not everything's come out well, but when it works, boy does it look awesome - and its not as hard as you think.

Oh, okay. Thanks. I suppose I should change it then. I actually forgot about the double strength insta death thing.

I'm excited to start!

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

Okay, so. I've made a list.
I know this might belong in the other part of the forum, but I think it should be okay posting this here.
Let me know what you guys think.

1486 Points (Could add more upgrades)

Inquisition Detachment
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (Her name is Elise) - Carapace Armour, Condemnor Boltgun, Power Sword, Liber Heresius, Psyocculum, x3 Servo Skulls, Warlord

Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband - , x1 Jokaero Weaponsmith x8 Acolytes w/Carapace Armour, Hotshot Lasgun, x1 Chimera w/Extra Armour, Psybolt Ammunition, Heavy Bolter, Hunter Killer Missle

Officio Assassinorum Detachment
Culexus Assassin - No upgrades

Militarum Tempestus Allied Detachment
Command Squad (5 models) - x3 Hotshot Volley Gun, x1 Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Adepta Sororitas Allied Detachment
Canoness - Eviscerator, Melta Bombs, Rosarius, Cloak of St. Aspira

Battle Sister Squad (5 models) - Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Simulacrum Imperialis, Veteran Sister Superior w/Melta Bombs, Immolator w/Twin-linked Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour.

I actually really like this list. Makes it seem like she (my inquisitor) has gathered up a few groups.
Let me know what you think.
It's not supposed to be really that strong, just fun.

I know you're going for theme rather than competitiveness but I do have some comments:

Your Henchmen are basically Scions but not as good. For my Henchmen I tend to load up on bolters and plasma guns. Not only is this more cost effective (in points) it would also give some more variety to your army as you already have Scions with hotshot lasguns. As it stands what does your Henchmen squad bring that another Scion squad wouldn't?

As mentioned Assassins aren't particularly competitive. A Culexus is the best of the bunch though. Fits your theme too.

Hotshot volley guns are pretty terrible when you compare them to the other special weapons you could be taking in these squads.

I'd give your Immolator a multi melta instead of heavy flamer. Give your Sisters squad two melta guns too and you've got some anti tank in your list.

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

Thanks. I'll probably be staying with Imperial forces I suppose now.

Also, sorry, but what is ITC? What do you mean by format?

Well, you see, GW has said that it's a model company, not a game company (They actually said this) so they've decided to focus on their miniatures and basically ignore their game rule sets as much as possible. This means that unless you have a lot of agreements and the like you can't play a balanced game of 40k, heck GW didn't even release FAQs for their rules for over a year.

As such, other tournament organizations have sprouted up, and have tried to create general erratas and the like so that the game is playable between strangers. The ITC (Independent Tournament Circuit) tends to be the most popular one, despite all the lamenting it gets on these forums. In fact if you look up Front Line Gaming on Twitch they'll be hosting their large scale Las Vegas Open event this weekend (Feb 5-7) which has several hundred players and offers a few thousand dollars to the winner.

It's not perfect obviously, but it's the best we have really. You can find the FAQ at the link here, and it has both rules clarification/changes for the main rule book and each army: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16nmBS2KZglu9JaGttpX_9lOYhYO2PQM47N8HvrsAA60/edit

If you really want to play a good game of 40k, or at least as balanced as you can get currently, the ITC rulings are the way to go.

Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining. I usually play at a friends place with a group or go in store (GW) for a few games.
My friends are well versed in 40k, so I think they might know about ITC, I'll have to ask next time.

I don't mind losing all my games, I just play for fun anyway. But yeah..

This is a common misconception, but in reality the better the rules are for a game, the more beneficial it is for casual players over all.

Look at it this way, casual players bring whatever appeals to them, so if something is unbalanced it's easy for them to accidentally bring something that is overpowered or just unplayable. I mean one of my favourite models in the game is the Riptide, and it's one of the strongest models in the army, so if I say would just unknowingly bring a Riptide Wing to a casual game, thinking it was cool looking, I'd be called a horrible person, despite only intending to play models I liked.

Now when it comes to tournament players, at least the hyper competitive ones, they don't necessarily mind playing whatever, as long as it's strong. This isn't because they're bad people, it's just they enjoy a different aspect of the game, and switching to the current best thing also adds diversity in its own way as they could be playing Space Marines one month and Tau the next, they'll even often have multiple armies ready to go. Though what's important in that is that they will all essentially bring what they think is the best and strongest at time, even if it's a home brew list, and the power level will balance out for them.

So yea, balance is most important to casual players and the like, as their driving force for playing something doesn't self correct the balance of the game like it does with tournament players.

i'd like to tack on that never let the perceived idea of "cheese" or "poor" constrict your army building. The scion example is when the unit is functionally the same either way, so using the superior unit won't make you lose anything. But don't ever feel pressured into buying 3 riptides just to not lose; buy them only because you like riptides. If you want Henchmen that are a mix of everything, go for it even if it's not as optimal as getting 12 deathcults.

That's very solid advice, and don't let others bully you out of playing what you like. Like I said, for me the Riptide is just an amazing model, and I'll bring at least one to every game, I might not bring three to a more relaxed game, but I also generally don't plan on doing that for tournaments either.

There's also always pride in doing well competitively with something off the wall, and in reality most things can be made competitive given enough thought, though that's not always the case.

El Torro wrote:

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

Okay, so. I've made a list.
I know this might belong in the other part of the forum, but I think it should be okay posting this here.
Let me know what you guys think.

1486 Points (Could add more upgrades)

Inquisition Detachment
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (Her name is Elise) - Carapace Armour, Condemnor Boltgun, Power Sword, Liber Heresius, Psyocculum, x3 Servo Skulls, Warlord

Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband - , x1 Jokaero Weaponsmith x8 Acolytes w/Carapace Armour, Hotshot Lasgun, x1 Chimera w/Extra Armour, Psybolt Ammunition, Heavy Bolter, Hunter Killer Missle

Officio Assassinorum Detachment
Culexus Assassin - No upgrades

Militarum Tempestus Allied Detachment
Command Squad (5 models) - x3 Hotshot Volley Gun, x1 Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Adepta Sororitas Allied Detachment
Canoness - Eviscerator, Melta Bombs, Rosarius, Cloak of St. Aspira

Battle Sister Squad (5 models) - Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Simulacrum Imperialis, Veteran Sister Superior w/Melta Bombs, Immolator w/Twin-linked Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour.

I actually really like this list. Makes it seem like she (my inquisitor) has gathered up a few groups.
Let me know what you think.
It's not supposed to be really that strong, just fun.

I know you're going for theme rather than competitiveness but I do have some comments:

Your Henchmen are basically Scions but not as good. For my Henchmen I tend to load up on bolters and plasma guns. Not only is this more cost effective (in points) it would also give some more variety to your army as you already have Scions with hotshot lasguns. As it stands what does your Henchmen squad bring that another Scion squad wouldn't?

As mentioned Assassins aren't particularly competitive. A Culexus is the best of the bunch though. Fits your theme too.

Hotshot volley guns are pretty terrible when you compare them to the other special weapons you could be taking in these squads.

I'd give your Immolator a multi melta instead of heavy flamer. Give your Sisters squad two melta guns too and you've got some anti tank in your list.

Thanks for the comments, but I'm using the Henchmen squad just because I like them and they'll get a bonus from the Weaponsmith too.

Tinkrr wrote:

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

 Tinkrr wrote:

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

Thanks. I'll probably be staying with Imperial forces I suppose now.

Also, sorry, but what is ITC? What do you mean by format?

Well, you see, GW has said that it's a model company, not a game company (They actually said this) so they've decided to focus on their miniatures and basically ignore their game rule sets as much as possible. This means that unless you have a lot of agreements and the like you can't play a balanced game of 40k, heck GW didn't even release FAQs for their rules for over a year.

As such, other tournament organizations have sprouted up, and have tried to create general erratas and the like so that the game is playable between strangers. The ITC (Independent Tournament Circuit) tends to be the most popular one, despite all the lamenting it gets on these forums. In fact if you look up Front Line Gaming on Twitch they'll be hosting their large scale Las Vegas Open event this weekend (Feb 5-7) which has several hundred players and offers a few thousand dollars to the winner.

It's not perfect obviously, but it's the best we have really. You can find the FAQ at the link here, and it has both rules clarification/changes for the main rule book and each army: https://docs.google.com/document/d/16nmBS2KZglu9JaGttpX_9lOYhYO2PQM47N8HvrsAA60/edit

If you really want to play a good game of 40k, or at least as balanced as you can get currently, the ITC rulings are the way to go.

Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining. I usually play at a friends place with a group or go in store (GW) for a few games.
My friends are well versed in 40k, so I think they might know about ITC, I'll have to ask next time.

I don't mind losing all my games, I just play for fun anyway. But yeah..

This is a common misconception, but in reality the better the rules are for a game, the more beneficial it is for casual players over all.

Look at it this way, casual players bring whatever appeals to them, so if something is unbalanced it's easy for them to accidentally bring something that is overpowered or just unplayable. I mean one of my favourite models in the game is the Riptide, and it's one of the strongest models in the army, so if I say would just unknowingly bring a Riptide Wing to a casual game, thinking it was cool looking, I'd be called a horrible person, despite only intending to play models I liked.

Now when it comes to tournament players, at least the hyper competitive ones, they don't necessarily mind playing whatever, as long as it's strong. This isn't because they're bad people, it's just they enjoy a different aspect of the game, and switching to the current best thing also adds diversity in its own way as they could be playing Space Marines one month and Tau the next, they'll even often have multiple armies ready to go. Though what's important in that is that they will all essentially bring what they think is the best and strongest at time, even if it's a home brew list, and the power level will balance out for them.

So yea, balance is most important to casual players and the like, as their driving force for playing something doesn't self correct the balance of the game like it does with tournament players.

Wait, were you talking to me?

MechaEmperor7000 wrote:i'd like to tack on that never let the perceived idea of "cheese" or "poor" constrict your army building. The scion example is when the unit is functionally the same either way, so using the superior unit won't make you lose anything. But don't ever feel pressured into buying 3 riptides just to not lose; buy them only because you like riptides. If you want Henchmen that are a mix of everything, go for it even if it's not as optimal as getting 12 deathcults.

Thanks Mecha. I just really take what I like anyway. For the most part, the stats and the like don't really matter to me.

Tinkrr wrote:That's very solid advice, and don't let others bully you out of playing what you like. Like I said, for me the Riptide is just an amazing model, and I'll bring at least one to every game, I might not bring three to a more relaxed game, but I also generally don't plan on doing that for tournaments either.

There's also always pride in doing well competitively with something off the wall, and in reality most things can be made competitive given enough thought, though that's not always the case.

Thanks for posting.

Another Raging Heroes fan here, think they'd work nicely with what you have in mind. Also worth checking Wargames Exclusive as they have their own female Inquisitors and Sister of Battle:

http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-inquisition/ - Inquisitors
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/battle-sisters/ - Sisters
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-soldiers/ - female Guard

They're not to everyone's taste but some of the stuff on there is great

 foostick wrote:
Another Raging Heroes fan here, think they'd work nicely with what you have in mind. Also worth checking Wargames Exclusive as they have their own female Inquisitors and Sister of Battle:

http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-inquisition/ - Inquisitors
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/battle-sisters/ - Sisters
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-soldiers/ - female Guard

They're not to everyone's taste but some of the stuff on there is great

I think I just found new models for my own Inquisition stuff. Thank you!

When you're living off fresh air and dreams because you bought all the cars don't be blaming me!

 Élise de la Serre wrote:

Okay, so. I've made a list.
I know this might belong in the other part of the forum, but I think it should be okay posting this here.
Let me know what you guys think.

1486 Points (Could add more upgrades)

Inquisition Detachment
Ordo Hereticus Inquisitor (Her name is Elise) - Carapace Armour, Condemnor Boltgun, Power Sword, Liber Heresius, Psyocculum, x3 Servo Skulls, Warlord

Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband - , x1 Jokaero Weaponsmith x8 Acolytes w/Carapace Armour, Hotshot Lasgun, x1 Chimera w/Extra Armour, Psybolt Ammunition, Heavy Bolter, Hunter Killer Missle

Officio Assassinorum Detachment
Culexus Assassin - No upgrades

Militarum Tempestus Allied Detachment
Command Squad (5 models) - x3 Hotshot Volley Gun, x1 Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Tempestus Scions (5 models) - x2 Hotshot Volley Gun, Vox Caster, Taurox Prime w/Extra Armour, Hunter Killer Missle, Taurox Battle Cannon, Twin-Linked Autocannon

Adepta Sororitas Allied Detachment
Canoness - Eviscerator, Melta Bombs, Rosarius, Cloak of St. Aspira

Battle Sister Squad (5 models) - Flamer, Heavy Flamer, Simulacrum Imperialis, Veteran Sister Superior w/Melta Bombs, Immolator w/Twin-linked Heavy Flamer, Extra Armour.

I actually really like this list. Makes it seem like she (my inquisitor) has gathered up a few groups.
Let me know what you think.
It's not supposed to be really that strong, just fun.

Took a look at your list.

If you haven't seen this old codex, look it up you will love it http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Codex:_Witch_Hunters_%283rd_Edition%29

Some random toughs about your list.
-Tried building it came only at ~1337 points I might have made a mistake but it could be worth checking the point totals again.
-Don't take melta bombs and an evicerator on the same model. You can only use one of them in close combat and they have the same role.
- That cannoness is really expensive in her current load out. And is kitted for close combat, non of your other units are kitted for close combat.-> If she is not in close combat her points are wasted, if she is your squads points are wasted since they should not be in close combat. If she is all alone she is dead.
-Consider the twin linked multi-melta on your immolator. you will use it more often.
-Drop all those extra amour upgrades you could buy an extra transport for the points you spend on them, and they don't do that much really.
-A single heavy flamer in a sister squad doesn't kill off close combat units and you would be really close to that squad the next turn. I would swap it for an other weapon or at least add a priest to that unit making it more durable in close combat. If you do take the priest, drop the Cloak on the canoness and ad the litanies of faith to the priest. This will give you re roll close combat saves on the entire squad instead of just the unit.
-The assasin needs a transport to be able to be in reach of a psyker.
-Inquisitorial chimeara's are just better then Taurox Primes, they are cheaper and have better armour values. The downside is that they aren't fast but spending ~90 points on a 11/10/110 vehicle with no xenos trickery to protect it is really risky and probally never worth its points. Drop those primes and get more Inq transports. You can get with henchmen squads that you don't deploy in those transpots and luckily cheap henchmen squads are good.
-I don't think that you need hot shot volley guns, sure they are great at killing MEQ's but you have a lot of that already and they are costy. I would rather spend my points on some melta gun squads, a decent close combat squad or a cool sister squad such as retrubutors with heavy bolters, dominion squad with melta (ignore cover + melta is really good), seraphims with dual hand flamers or a exorcist tank
-Dop the Psyocculum this looks great but isn't really worth its points unless your meta has a plasma adiction and likes to get close up with those guns.
Mos of the time plasma will be long range or just not included in a list.
- If you want to go anti psyker go for the null rod and drop the power sword
-Liber heresius, I love that item.
-Power swords -> If you want to take one in a squad because you consider going into battle with it always add a priest to that squad.
-Condemnor Boltgun looks nice, but it doesn't work single shot ap - isn't going to wound enough psykers to see its its perils effect into play that often.
-Hunter killer missiles drop them, and take any kind of melta squad in a transport instead. Single shot S8 isn't going to kill that much.
-The 8 acylotes with hot shot guns + armour + space monkey worries me a bit. These sort of squads can be great but I don't think that this one will make its points back that easy.
The reasons why. If you hide out in your safe transport then 4 out of the 9 expensive guns are wasted as is your expensive trooper amour.
If you go out in the open you will get shot at and loose expensive models really quick. Also space monkeys weapon seems to be a waste in this unit. Sure it is cool if he upgrades the squad and that might be worth it. But his lascannon is totally useless in a short ranged anti infantry squad that likes to be on the move.

In general:
Your army is now focused on killing marines by shooting at it in medium range and loves all sorts of fancy upgrades. This is cool but it is also very costly to field. Resulting in a small number of T3 models that will get shot at a lot since they are also in their mid range fire power.
Your army is lacking decent anti vehicle and anti monster fire power and anything that can go into close combat and survive.

There's no reason to actually upgrade the acolyte henchmens' armour, especially if they'll be in their transport the whole time - perhaps their 'heavy' armour is really archaic, which means it only grants a 5+ save (like the Crusaders' full plate).

 foostick wrote:
Another Raging Heroes fan here, think they'd work nicely with what you have in mind. Also worth checking Wargames Exclusive as they have their own female Inquisitors and Sister of Battle:

http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-inquisition/ - Inquisitors
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/battle-sisters/ - Sisters
http://wargameexclusive.com/product-category/imperial-soldiers/ - female Guard

They're not to everyone's taste but some of the stuff on there is great

I don't know why they bother marking some of them as pin-up. They're all pin-up sculpts. While some of them are very nice pin-up sculpts, I can't recommend them as gaming pieces.

I've only bought a couple of the Commissars from there, these two specifically:

http://wargameexclusive.com/shop/imperial-soldiers/female-commissar-pack/

I know what you mean about pin up - I use those two as proxy Escher and I think they work fine but I've tried to give them a grunge/riot grrl vibe anyway so it looks like the uniform's been defaced to keep with the original Escher minis punk feel.

 Élise de la Serre wrote:
As the title says, I want to do an Inquisition army, but I have no idea whatsoever on how to form one. I'm relatively new to this hobby and I love the idea of an independent character out on a personal pursuit or vendetta.
Does this fit with an Inquisitor or maybe with a character of another race? If I wasn't going to do Inquisitors, I'd maybe do Dark Eldar, Eldar or Harlequins.
I'd like as little models in my army as I can and I know my lists won't be strong, but it's all for fun really.

Let me know what you guys think. I'm open to most suggestions, though I'm a little indecisive.
Thanks.

I'd recommend getting some Inquisitors first(there are a lot of possible stand-ins outside of GW available), maybe a kit of Grey Knight Terminators to build Terminator Armour Inquisitors (Ordo Malleus has access to that). Grab Coteaz, he's pretty awesome for 100pts.

Get a few Servo Skulls (or at least something to represent them), you'll always want to bring at least a few of them.

For the Henchmen, you'll want a few Jokaeros, some Psykers (get a box or two of Wyrdvane Psykers, for example) for really cheap warp charges, one or two Ministrorum Priests, 2 boxes of Crusaders (so 4 in total) as your "specialists".

To fill out your ranks you'll also want Deathcult Assassins for strong Melee squads and a bunch of different "Guardsmen-like models" for your Shooty squads. I use Tempestus Scions for Power Armour Acolyths, Cadians for Carapace and 3rd Party (Victoria Lamb) for Flak Armour.

For heavy weapons you can bring 3 Special Weapon Acolyths in a Henchman Squad, so some multiple of 3 for Plasma Guns, Melta Guns and Flamers is probably a good idea, too. Feel free to use whatever models you feel look good - there isn't anything you can do wrong here. Acolythes are basically just some "inquisitors in training" and can look whatever you feel they should look like.
Alternatively - or in addition - you can grab some Servitors and arm them with Plasma Cannons (I grabbed a pack of Legion Plasma Cannons from Forgeworld and stuck them onto regular Servitors, didn't take much work but looks decent) - although they'll NEED an Inquisitor to babysit them. Hellrifle-using Ordo Malleus is what I'd suggest there.

For vehicles:
Get 2-3 Chimeras, built them with Heavy Bolters (or magnetize them for flexibility) and remember than they have firing points for 5 models, unlike the modern AM Chimera.
Get a Land Raider, I prefer the Crusader for Inquisition but you could go for Prometheus, Godhammer or Redeemer, too.
Get a Valkyrie or three - you can use them to transport e.g. 3 Special Weapon Acolyths with Meltas right up to the enemy tanks.

You can do a lot of fun stuff with Inquisition, but they really lack a few things - like ObSec. But you can always bring an AM or SM detachment along or even integrate them fluffwise, eg "Deathwatch" Space Marines or "Local Planetary Defense Guard" as Imperial Guard - which really opens up what you can do with your army.

*edit*
Since you want a female Inquisitor: Raging Heroes and Wargame Exclusive have some decently decent (you'll know what I mean by than when you see the entire range) models, and some converting can go a long way to making them usable.

oldzoggy wrote:
-Dop the Psyocculum this looks great but isn't really worth its points unless your meta has a plasma adiction and likes to get close up with those guns.
Mos of the time plasma will be long range or just not included in a list.

I think you might be confusing the psyocculum with the plasma siphon, Zoggy.


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 Furyou Miko wrote:

I don't know why they bother marking some of them as pin-up. They're all pin-up sculpts.

Now, let's be fair... some of them are cars.

Actually I kind of dig their armored sisters sculpts, and their repentia is a few dozen purity seals away from being a more accurate representation of the art in model form than the official models, but yeah, there's something off-putting about those proportions...

Also, what's with those necrons?

Don't limit yourself to just GW minis when making an inquisitor and retinue. I've found that third party minitures offer a much more imaginative range of choices. GW has dropped the ball with official inquisition models

I would take three XO Inquisitors with Rad Grenades, Power Sword and Venon Talon, three Henchmen squads with 3 Crusaders, 7 DCAs, and 1 Priest, and a SM Land Raider Spearhead with 3 LR Crusaders each with Multi-Meltas. That's 1500 points on the nose, and replaces the DT Land Raiders with the uber LR formation.

SJ

Captain Joystick wrote:

 Furyou Miko wrote:

I don't know why they bother marking some of them as pin-up. They're all pin-up sculpts.

Now, let's be fair... some of them are cars.

I stand by my statement. :p

Captain Joystick wrote:
Actually I kind of dig their armored sisters sculpts, and their repentia is a few dozen purity seals away from being a more accurate representation of the art in model form than the official models, but yeah, there's something off-putting about those proportions...

Also, what's with those necrons?

I don't like them. The proportions are even worse than the GW ones, and the giant boobs just turn me right off.

... I'm not even touching the Boobcrons with a bargepole.

foostick wrote:I've only bought a couple of the Commissars from there, these two specifically:

http://wargameexclusive.com/shop/imperial-soldiers/female-commissar-pack/

I know what you mean about pin up - I use those two as proxy Escher and I think they work fine but I've tried to give them a grunge/riot grrl vibe anyway so it looks like the uniform's been defaced to keep with the original Escher minis punk feel.

I like them as Eschers! They look like they're made of really flimsy resin though.