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 BoomWolf wrote:


Say farseer, do you have easily manageable spreadsheets there? Because if so I'd also be interested in seeing how it looks in "grand alliance" averages (all eldar together, all chaos together and all Imperium together.)

I'll be honest, you can't really draw any but the loosest conclusions from this graph.

Not really, no. but it IS interesting to see the split.
And it does give minor insights into what you can expect from liberal application of allies.

Chaos factions as a whole are the worst, despite having the "far best" renegades among them, while eldar as a whole (despite DE and quins being poor) are by far the best. it hits towards the fact allied Eldar armies mostly make a better "allied faction" than the Chaos ones, and not by little.

Non-eldar exnos being slightly after IoM tells little though, as tau, orks, crons and nids have nothing to do with each other and don't form "practically one army" lists with each other.
Made the splits between various xenos in my head, it reveals that orks and nids are below even "Chaos faction", while tau and crons are between "IoM faction" and "Eldar faction"

Naturally, large number of poorly preforming IoM codcies that are played for no mechanically sound reason and only due to personal favoritism (such as BA and pre-curse wolves) is pulling the "alliance" down, so now that curse exists, and considering many of the lower IoM are not yet 7.5, we can expect them to rise up.

Orks unfortunately did not receive much in the ghazcurion, but the "get started" formation at least seems to be powerful and could make a strong army core. but I doubt they'll get higher than chaos. a shame.
Nids...with all the formations they got its almost as if they are 7.5 already, they just don't work on base level beyond a few gimmiks.



Also, the difference between renegades and AM just struck me. the two are so similar in theory, yet the results are so different. I wonder what has led to this massive difference.

I find it interesting that looking at 'which armies suck most at doing well' chaos marines and imperial guard are both pretty poor, whereas if you look at 'where will this army probably place' chaos marines become mediocre, but IG remain poor by that metric too.

[joke]I think chaos players can stop complaining; Renegades turns out to be the win button. [/joke]