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And when everyone is disorganised and no longer united....

 Iron_Captain wrote:

Disciple of Fate wrote:

 Daemonhammer wrote:
To be honest for all I care Ukraine can burn together with its corruption, Neo-Nazis, mass homophobia and who knows what else is going on there.

Still if Russia annexes everything things will get a little bit awkward, another border to look after and defend for NATO.

Couldn't you just replace Ukraine with Russia and still have the same valid statement. Yet we would interact with Russia and not Ukraine despite these reasons, with the (despicable) events that occurred.

You could replace Ukraine with pretty much any former Eastern Bloc country there. And some of those actually made it in the EU (Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria etc.). Political elites anywhere just don't care about corruption, human rights and all that stuff. It is just for show. In reality all they care about is power and money.

Yes, but for the sake of the EU we should not neglect one and favour the other, we can still try to help before declaring it a lost cause (doing nothing while bashing is kinda counter-productive in almost every situation). People acted like it was a membership referendum.

The EU's apathetic towards membership currently due to the economic downturn and particularly countries like Greece which people want on the way out. Ukraine's just another country to drag down the EU as the economists see it. Yes the economy wasn't amazing pre-Russian invasion, but it is the largest country in Europe. Hell Ukraine has pretty much the most fertile soil in the world (to the point they made it illegal to export it ...we'll ignore the whole Chernobyl thing).

That's just too funny.