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So for the time being, just grab some bar soap and chip a piece off, and then rub the wet brush on it? Or get the soap wet and just rub a dry brush on it? Either way, i'll be sure to take better care of my brushes from now on, thanks.

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I'm a (big) fan of Winsor Newton Brush Cleaner & Restorer

But, I am also a neat freak when it comes to keeping my brushes clean. I refuse to paint with dirty brushes -- it feels like trying to color with the top half of a broken crayon.
   
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Any sort of soap will help lift acrylic paint, especially that which hasn't cured for very long. Soap alone, though, may dry out natural bristles.

Plenty of soaps include moisturizers, but many don't. If you've ever washed yourself at different times using bar soaps like Dove and Irish Spring, for example, your skin will show the difference. Soap, by design, strips oils - it's an emulsifier, meaning it binds to them... and then rinses away, taking the oils with it. Oils are what keep hair 'springy' and resilient. If they're not replaced, you're doing as much harm as good to your bristles.

That's why dedicated brush soaps, like Master's (my weapon of choice), are so popular - they remove the gunk and preserve the natural hair fibers. You can achieve a similar effect by using a harsher cleaner and a restorative (e.g. low-concentration rubbing alcohol and hair conditioner), but I, at least, firmly believe that the purpose-formulated products work better than the DIY solutions, in this case. Considering the minimal cost of a bit of brush cleaner vs. the longevity of the product and the improved performance and lifespan of brushes cleaned therewith... I'd wager that most experienced painters would call it a no-brainer.

If you choose to use whatever soap you have, in the mean time, either method will work; wet brush on dry soap or dry brush on wet soap... both will let you work up the required lather.


As far as the original post's question is concerned... you've opened a whole can of worms, even if you don't realize it. Hobby branding is just branding - tons of industries have companies that buy and re-brand stuff, every business that advertises spins and targets its message, etc. If you want the best tool and value for any hobby-job, the last thing you want to do is search based on that very specific criterion. Cutting is cutting, sanding is sanding, etc. Plenty of variables, there, but something designed to cut soft plastic cuts soft plastic, whether you're talking about electrical wire sheathing or the gates on a model kit.

If you're handy, you can also take merely decent tools and turn them into absolute gems. Sometimes, a high-end tool has specific features or high-tech materials that make it awesome. Other times, it's just a simple machine that has tight tolerances and good quality control. Clippers are a great example of this. Some pricey Xuron shears have a slight bypass that is supposed to give a cleaner cut. They're built to their specs with tight tolerances and quality materials. Harbor Freight flush cutters use middling quality steel, loose tolerances, and a crappy surface finish. Sometimes, they have that bypass cutting feature, but it's purely by accident and doesn't exactly work as 'intended.' However, the mediocre steel is more than a match for styrene and any slop/play in the jaws can be taken out with a few whacks from a hammer (peening a rivet can have art to it, but "hit it with a hammer" gets you most of the way there). If you have any skill with a whetstone/diamond paddles, you can true up the arms, sharpen the jaws, and have a $3 tool outperforming a $20 one. You might also win the 'tool lottery' (what I call shopping at HF) right out of the gate. Assuming you don't, it means modification and refining which is, of course, not a route for everyone, but I feel it bears mentioning.


As far as specific recommendations go, I'll vouch for Vallejo's Model Air range, both for airbrushing and using the old 'hairy sticks.' When it comes to Game and Model Color paints, like any brand, there are gems and duds. Overall, though, I rate them highly. I have limited experience with Army Painter's Warpaints, but have yet to be disappointed. P3 and Reaper MSP are well liked by those that have used them, but I can't comment based on any personal experience. On the 'fine arts' side of things, I've found Golden to be fantastic, both for mediums and for actual paints. Liquitex... I've had terrible luck with paints and split results with varnishes and mediums. YMMV, as always.

For brushes, I swear by Rosemary & Co. I've yet to try the much-vaunted Raphael 8404s or W&N S.7s, but considering the price I pay and the quality I get in my R&Co. series 99s (red sable) and 33s (Kolinsky sable)... I'm not sure I'll ever be able to make a direct comparison. I'm quite happy where I stand.

For epoxy putties, just skip ANY game or 'hobby' company's offerings - you'll be paying more for less, likely packaged in a less than optimal configuration. Greenstuff is, as mentioned previously, originally called "Kneadatite." There are alternative epoxy putties with various working properties, but ALL of them are best when packaged in divided or completely separate containers. Those conjoined strips that are sold in short lengths are 1) heavily marked up and 2) partially useless, due to premature curing along the contact area.

TLDR: If you're in it for the long haul, try a bunch of different products (as time and money allow) and find your own favorites. If you have the sensibilities (not 'sense' - there's no magic, here, and not thinking in this way doesn't make you a lesser hobbyist or person), reduce every task to its most basic form and select the best tool for that job. If you're completely lost and just want specific suggestions, then just toss my votes in with all the rest of them.

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 oadie wrote:
Any sort of soap will help lift acrylic paint, especially that which hasn't cured for very long. Soap alone, though, may dry out natural bristles.

Plenty of soaps include moisturizers, but many don't. If you've ever washed yourself at different times using bar soaps like Dove and Irish Spring, for example, your skin will show the difference. Soap, by design, strips oils - it's an emulsifier, meaning it binds to them... and then rinses away, taking the oils with it. Oils are what keep hair 'springy' and resilient. If they're not replaced, you're doing as much harm as good to your bristles.
I've used a few different bars of hand soaps and they all work fine for brushes (even though I don't necessarily like using some of them on my hands ).

We use bars of soap in my house so I just go in the bathroom and cut off a corner and leave it on my palette, a little slice will last me months.

Dish soaps (which I think is an American term? I always grew up calling it dish washing detergent) is most definitely designed to strip oils and not replace them. That's why I use hand soap to clean my brushes but dish detergent to clean the miniatures themselves before painting them.

I'm not necessarily saying it's not better to use a specifically designed brush soap, it's just what I've personally been using. Art stores are few and far between where I live, if you have an art store that sells brush soap and is next to the general store you're going in to to buy your hand soap, of course I'd recommend just getting the brush soap But for me when I first started looking for brush stores I couldn't find physical stores that sold it and while deciding which online store to buy it from I discovered the hand soap I had in my bathroom worked fine and has been working fine for ages.

If I hadn't painted hundreds of models with the same brush which still holds a nearly perfect tip, I probably would have tried harder to get some dedicated brush soap

If you paint with oils you can also use soap and water to clean your brushes instead of harsh thinners, your brushes will come up a lot nicer afterwards.

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I use a Marseille soap that was sold as a brush soap, it's great and will probably outlive me, barely made a dent in it in 3 years.
   
 
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