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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 14:02:57
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Warsaw
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Space Marines, Eldar and Tau are Tier 1.
IG, DE, GK, BA, SW are Tier 2.
CSM, Tyranids and Orks are Tier 3.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 14:47:22
Subject: Army Rankings?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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How are DE a T2 army? By what I've seen of them, they die to a stiff breeze worse than IG.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 15:08:52
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Flower Picking Eldar Youth
Munich
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hm. the following is very personal and ONLY can be applied in the world around myself.
Top tier:
Tyranids, Necrons, various codex marines, Wulfen Marines
medium tier:
Tau, Eldar, Orks, IG, Daemons, CSM, S-wolves (without wolven), BA, DA
low tier:
DE, Harlequins, Sisters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 15:16:36
Subject: Re:Army Rankings?
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Krazed Killa Kan
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Ere we Go with the tier lists.
The following are in no exact order within a tier and assuming the average of power builds. 1 single cheese build doesn't qualify as being worthy of tier one when the majority of builds are tier 2. This isn't factoring in being apart of an ally combo so much but instead based on them being a majority faction in an army list.
Also Tier 1 = highly completive and not lacking. Tier 2 = quite capable of winning but have vulnerabilities that can be difficult to overcome. Tier 3 = generally lacking with obvious weaknesses or holes in their rules/units. This doesn't mean they can't make completive lists but its what we would consider it playing the game on "Hard Mode".
Tier 1: Eldar, Tau, Necrons, Space Marines, Daemons, Space Wolves
Tier 2: Dark Angels, Guard, Sisters, Admech/Skitari, Imperial Knights, Grey Knights.
Tier 3: Nids, CSM, Orks, Dark Eldar, Blood Angels, Harlequins, all the Imperium ally factions like Inq and MT.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 15:28:08
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Fixture of Dakka
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murgel wrote:hm. the following is very personal and ONLY can be applied in the world around myself.
Top tier:
Tyranids, Necrons, various codex marines, Wulfen Marines
medium tier:
Tau, Eldar, Orks, IG, Daemons, CSM, S-wolves (without wolven), BA, DA
low tier:
DE, Harlequins, Sisters
I'm curious as to how Eldar and Tau ended up below Nids.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 15:39:55
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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pm713 wrote: murgel wrote:hm. the following is very personal and ONLY can be applied in the world around myself.
Top tier:
Tyranids, Necrons, various codex marines, Wulfen Marines
medium tier:
Tau, Eldar, Orks, IG, Daemons, CSM, S-wolves (without wolven), BA, DA
low tier:
DE, Harlequins, Sisters
I'm curious as to how Eldar and Tau ended up below Nids.
Wow, that's quite interesting. In no world should that ever be the case. Automatically Appended Next Post: Xathrodox86 wrote:Space Marines, Eldar and Tau are Tier 1.
IG, DE, GK, BA, SW are Tier 2.
CSM, Tyranids and Orks are Tier 3.
And Necrons are...?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 15:42:21
Subject: Army Rankings?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Tier 4 brah.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 16:23:31
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Eldar are definitely top of Tier 1, but since Marines, Tau and Necrons still stand a good chance against them, there is no need to put Eldar in their own Tier.
This is how I'd Rank them (with each ranked within their tier):
Tier 1:
Eldar
Marines
Tau
Necrons
Tier 2:
Daemons
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
Tier 3:
Grey Knights
Nids
Dark Eldar
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Orks
I didn't bother ranking Sisters, Harlequins, Stelaler Cults, Ad mech, etc because they either aren't expanded enough, or don't have enough GW support to consider an "army" in their own right, despite having their own codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 23:02:05
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
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#1ShieldBrother3++ wrote:You say you know what's op, yet you still made this thread to rank things that are op to ones that are not? What? And don't even bother putting that warning, yyou know it will turn into a [MOD EDIT - Please find a different way to express that. - Alpharius]
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 23:37:48
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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What about Imperial Knights as their own faction?
They are clearly hard to play against if your not prepared for them, but they lack flexibility to be top tier by themselves.
No anti-psychic, minimal anti-air, no objective secured, etc.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/29 09:52:07
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
Warsaw
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Selym wrote:How are DE a T2 army? By what I've seen of them, they die to a stiff breeze worse than IG.
I'm taking into account the mid-level expertise of a player who uses them. They're hard army, but if played right, can be devastating.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/29 10:01:36
Subject: Army Rankings?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Xathrodox86 wrote: Selym wrote:How are DE a T2 army? By what I've seen of them, they die to a stiff breeze worse than IG.
I'm taking into account the mid-level expertise of a player who uses them. They're hard army, but if played right, can be devastating.
That is a silly argument. Pit a mid-level DE player against a mid-level anything else player (besides anyone who puts Abaddon in their army), and the DE will get crushed. Unless you think it makes sense to assume everything else in your list is being played by noobs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/29 10:46:16
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Lethal Lhamean
Birmingham
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Selym wrote: Xathrodox86 wrote: Selym wrote:How are DE a T2 army? By what I've seen of them, they die to a stiff breeze worse than IG.
I'm taking into account the mid-level expertise of a player who uses them. They're hard army, but if played right, can be devastating.
That is a silly argument. Pit a mid-level DE player against a mid-level anything else player (besides anyone who puts Abaddon in their army), and the DE will get crushed. Unless you think it makes sense to assume everything else in your list is being played by noobs.
Your obviously not a Dark Eldar player then. CSM, Nids, Blood Angels and Orks at least are all very much weaker than DE before you start using the Covens supplement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/29 12:20:14
Subject: Army Rankings?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Imateria wrote: Selym wrote: Xathrodox86 wrote: Selym wrote:How are DE a T2 army? By what I've seen of them, they die to a stiff breeze worse than IG.
I'm taking into account the mid-level expertise of a player who uses them. They're hard army, but if played right, can be devastating.
That is a silly argument. Pit a mid-level DE player against a mid-level anything else player (besides anyone who puts Abaddon in their army), and the DE will get crushed. Unless you think it makes sense to assume everything else in your list is being played by noobs.
Your obviously not a Dark Eldar player then. CSM, Nids, Blood Angels and Orks at least are all very much weaker than DE before you start using the Covens supplement.
Nids are certainly not, though I'll agree with the rest. DE happen to do better against nids, that's true, but nids have better match ups then DE do, generally speaking.
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