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Pretty positive the LR must be placed empty in Reserves, and the DWKs must be placed in Deep Strike Reserves on foot.

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Pretty positive the LR must be placed empty in Reserves, and the DWKs must be placed in Deep Strike Reserves on foot.

thats what i figured

tneva82 wrote:

 Lammikkovalas wrote:
The Dark Angels FAQ indeed does prevent Land Raiders from Deep Striking any more, no question about that. The thing that I never understood was why are people so averse to Land Raiders Deep Striking to begin with?



It's not like the Land Raiders would teleport or fly using their own wings, they are being carried.

If it deep strikes it's not by being carried by transport. To simulate that you would have actual flier come in and land in and disembark it.

If it comes by airplane there's for example this thing called "anti-aircraft" weapons that could shoot them down before it even gets to land.

So yeah land raiders can be transported by airplane. Deep strike just ain't that.

And yet Jump Pack allows Deep Strike and it is not teleportation. Also I don't know why it is not fluff-possible to teleport LR?

Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

I would not mind it gaining a deep strike rule with the caveat that its getting dropped in and the transport can be shot at.

 Backspacehacker wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

I would not mind it gaining a deep strike rule with the caveat that its getting dropped in and the transport can be shot at.

That's what the Interceptor rule is for.

 doctortom wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

I would not mind it gaining a deep strike rule with the caveat that its getting dropped in and the transport can be shot at.

That's what the Interceptor rule is for.

Not if the Transport is abstract such as for Assault Marines, Crisis Suits, or BA's 5th Ed Land Raiders.

 Charistoph wrote:

 doctortom wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

I would not mind it gaining a deep strike rule with the caveat that its getting dropped in and the transport can be shot at.

That's what the Interceptor rule is for.

Not if the Transport is abstract such as for Assault Marines, Crisis Suits, or BA's 5th Ed Land Raiders.

It's not abstract for the things getting dropped off by the abstract transport, which is what it sounded like Backspacehacker wanted to shoot (the Land Raider, not the Thunderhawk dropping it).

 doctortom wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:

 doctortom wrote:

 Backspacehacker wrote:

 Retrogamer0001 wrote:
Jump pack troopers similarly jump out of aircraft mid-flight. I personally think that LRs should be able to deep strike, whether you want to call it teleportation or an air drop, but those are the rules.

I would not mind it gaining a deep strike rule with the caveat that its getting dropped in and the transport can be shot at.

That's what the Interceptor rule is for.

Not if the Transport is abstract such as for Assault Marines, Crisis Suits, or BA's 5th Ed Land Raiders.

It's not abstract for the things getting dropped off by the abstract transport, which is what it sounded like Backspacehacker wanted to shoot (the Land Raider, not the Thunderhawk dropping it).

If we are talking about changing Interceptor to count for that, that is one thing, but a Transport that can be shot by Interceptor has little official need to be Deep Striking a unit, though a desire to do so may be present (ala Storm Raven/Valkyrie/etc).

I was suggesting that if you are dropping off a vehicle the transporting vehicle can be shot at.

So dipping into lore, if you wanted to deep strike something like a LR, or rhino chassis type vehicle, the interceptor rule would let you shoot at the armor value of a thunder hawk transport.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
I was suggesting that if you are dropping off a vehicle the transporting vehicle can be shot at.

So dipping into lore, if you wanted to deep strike something like a LR, or rhino chassis type vehicle, the interceptor rule would let you shoot at the armor value of a thunder hawk transport.

What if the Land Raider's being dropped from orbit with a big-ass parachute to stop its fall? Would you want to shoot at the apaceship dropping it?

While you're changing interceptor to allow something like that, can we make units arriving by deep strike that are tunneling up from below (yes, I miss the old moles/termites) so that they can't be intercepted, or units teleporting in can't be intercepted since it seems that Intercept is made for units that are being dropped off by a transport?