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Guess I'm spoiled with my outflanking Vanquishers then.

Why would you use Splinter over frag, frag has a 60" range, is str 5, forces pinning checks at -1 ld, and is free. Against marines of the 2+ and 3+ variety frag will wound 4 times as often, which makes it better against 3+ saves than splinter, and just edges out splinter in terms of models dead against 2+/4++ saves. For that ten points I'd get shatter shells, that way I could overwatch and do some admittedly risky anti-vehicle work.

 Grimgold wrote:
Why would you use Splinter over frag, frag has a 60" range, is str 5, forces pinning checks at -1 ld, and is free. Against marines of the 2+ and 3+ variety frag will wound 4 times as often, which makes it better against 3+ saves than splinter, and just edges out splinter in terms of models dead against 2+/4++ saves. For that ten points I'd get shatter shells, that way I could overwatch and do some admittedly risky anti-vehicle work.

...who mentioned Splinter?

All I saw was talk about Shatter, since this is an anti-tank thread.

Rapiers can't move so venator way better vs flareshielded Spartan. deploy on flank and you should get 1 or two turns into its side as it's rolling to your lines. with rapiers you'd just point the Spartan at them so -1 up. depending your game size it becomes easier to deal with Spartans as you have more sources of anti tank; they cant show flare shields to everything.

I agree with the there are 2 kind of AT in 30k, can and can't kill fllareshielded Spartan. I like the flyer as my heavy support is usually full with other stuff (IW)

Any barrage weapons also work; but the side armour, no flare shields.

I like laser rapiers better than grav; long range. But grav is good vs deep striking leviathans

 BrookM wrote:
Guess I'm spoiled with my outflanking Vanquishers then.

Or auxilia medusa siege guns with bastion-breachers. S10 ap1 armourbane, and with a small blast, even at bs3 they'll have a hard time missing a spartan.

locarno24 wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Guess I'm spoiled with my outflanking Vanquishers then.

Or auxilia medusa siege guns with bastion-breachers. S10 ap1 armourbane, and with a small blast, even at bs3 they'll have a hard time missing a spartan.

Those are Militia though.. they are below me.

Oh! Oh! I got another non-Legion option.

Freaking Vulturax.

I was brainstorming some LC lists because I want to paint them because I have a serious collector's addiction (at least I can admit it, I suppose...) and looked at their stats. GROSS.

Triple Haywire shots per model! On a T7 4W FMC with a Flare Shield!? Ouch. Seems like two of these should put down a Spartan reliably. And they can also serve as anti-air units too... sheesh. For a measly 175pt a pop. I'll take six, please!

Haywire is
I'm definitely kitting my breachers with gravs. Have a sneaky idea to use Crysos to infiltrate them and get a nice alpha tank strike...hmm...