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usmcmidn wrote:

Your definition of won is very different then mine. He is now a vegetable because of Horus the excuse the Emperor wasn't trying is ridiculous... I view it as both sides lost that fight.

Also recall that the Emperor's heart wasn't in it, he had difficulty committing to slaying his once most favored son. IMO if the Emperor hadn't hesitated, it would have been no contest.

In a straight up fight, Emperor wins vs. any Primarch, hands down.

 Insectum7 wrote:

usmcmidn wrote:

Your definition of won is very different then mine. He is now a vegetable because of Horus the excuse the Emperor wasn't trying is ridiculous... I view it as both sides lost that fight.

Also recall that the Emperor's heart wasn't in it, he had difficulty committing to slaying his once most favored son. IMO if the Emperor hadn't hesitated, it would have been no contest.

In a straight up fight, Emperor wins vs. any Primarch, hands down.

Depending on which canon you follow he either sucker punched or struggled with a drunken Russ.
Love the way Russ blames the alcohol for his loss in the version where they wrestle it out for a week rather than the version where he gets sucker punched.
Also makes me wonder if the Big E and the Primarchs had to use the Fenrisian poison to get an effect from alcohol like the Space Wolves do?