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ah, people do focus on the negatives a bit too much. So here goes

Admech:
I love the sheer diversity in size when an army is on the board.
You've got standard rangers/vanguard stood next to spindly infiltrators next to, the big tech priest, next to rolling servitors, towering dragoons and lumbering kastellans.

Dark Angels:
I love bike, i love terminators......and i love robes on marines. Easy chapter choice there

Necrons:
They were my first full army and i love how quickly I can paint a new unit up and have it on the board.

Basic Tactical Marines, I just love 'em!

Chaos Space Marines...

What is my favorite part about the army? Honestly the flexibility of it. You get to play with not only marines, but armor (tanks, dreadnoughts, etc) as well as Monstrous Creatures (demons).

I love playing the bad guys - and these are about as bad as they get.

Although we all know the codex struggles it allows you (especially now with the Legions book) to play the army in MANY different ways.

I also love that they naturally feel right summoning in (allying with) demons.

 Galef wrote:
Eldar: The aesthetics are great. Smooth, elegant and swift looking. The Wraith-constructs are some of my favorite models GW have EVER produced.
I also love that the basic troops can ride jetbikes RotJ style. It's what attracted me to the army in the first place. Too bad I am constantly condemned for it now just because they suddenly became "OP"

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A) The models look great.

B) It wasn't sudden.

Martel732 wrote:

B) It wasn't sudden.

Not to derail the thread or anything, but Jetbikes were just an annoyance without Scatter Lasers. The only reason they're OP is the Scatter Laser and the ability to get a heavy weapon on every model in the unit for a less than appropriate cost. That was a sudden shift for sure.

Martel732 wrote:

 Galef wrote:
Eldar: The aesthetics are great. Smooth, elegant and swift looking. The Wraith-constructs are some of my favorite models GW have EVER produced.
I also love that the basic troops can ride jetbikes RotJ style. It's what attracted me to the army in the first place. Too bad I am constantly condemned for it now just because they suddenly became "OP"

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A) The models look great.

B) It wasn't sudden.

It was sudden. It happened in the pre-current codex White Dwarf that gave Windriders the ability to take special weapons on every model, and Scatter lasers to boot.
Prior to this, Windriders were just taken as 1-2 min units and held in reserve for objective grabbing. Running an all jetbike army was considered being a "fluff player"

But despite all the hate, I will still run as many bikes as I want.
Cuz I love them

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Yeah, I love the aesthetics of the Eldar. They're also quite fun to paint, and the different aspects make the task less tedious.

I misunderstood. The jetbike thing WAS sudden, but the Eldar being very strong was old news.

5 ignore cover meltaguns that can scout 12" in a multimelta weilding rhino before the game starts.

Nouf said.

 cvtuttle wrote:
Chaos Space Marines...

What is my favorite part about the army? Honestly the flexibility of it. You get to play with not only marines, but armor (tanks, dreadnoughts, etc) as well as Monstrous Creatures (demons).

I love playing the bad guys - and these are about as bad as they get.

Although we all know the codex struggles it allows you (especially now with the Legions book) to play the army in MANY different ways.

I also love that they naturally feel right summoning in (allying with) demons.

Exactly the same feelings as you except I don't really like playing the bad guys. But everything else about Chaos is so perfect. You can have so many playstyles with so many different types of units, but also demons work so well with them. In addition, from a painting standpoint they are a lot of fun. So many different colors to work with in one army, so many types of units to paint and model, some being fleshy or some being mechanical. Chaos marines are just so damn versatile and that's why I love them

Its interesting (or though not surprising) that people tend to fall into two groups - either its the rules they like, or its the models they like.

What I find concerning though is there aren't a lot of people saying its the fluff of the army they like. I know when I started, it was the fluff that drew me into the game and which army I went for - they were all reasonably balanced, the models on all of them were of the same level of quality and so it just came down to personal preference which style of models you liked. As such, the choice tended to come down to which armies background did you like.

I think GW needs to find a way to get back to this, people picking an army because they like the fluff of it or the models of it and not because it is the strongest.

For my Imperial Guard I just love the fact that they are ordinary men and women fighting against every horror and monster the galaxy can throw at them. Whether its monstrous xenos or horrifying demons the Guard will fight them with honest human courage (and enough guns to make even a Fire Warrior blush)

For my Ultramarines I just love their color scheme, and the fact that, at their core, my Ultramarines believe in being courageous and honorable in a galaxy filled with deception

I love the fact that my chaos marines and daemons are a complete mixed bowl able to do everything if i want to play a shooty game i can if i want an army full of zerkers i can if i want some big fleshy daemons i can if i want a psychic summoning or witchfire spamming army i can or i can play a game that combines them all. Also the fact that i love converting and nurglifying everything is awesome.

My Orks army was born from the fact that i had a broken vehicle and i wanted to use it in an army so i converted it to a looted wagon, this started an epidemic as i built up a whole squad of 10 bikes using lego one box of bikers and some eldar bits that they looted. almost every ork model i have has some sort of conversion on it and i built up a Dakka post box that is my deff dread.

For my tau
The over whelming fire power and the ability to play my favorite way by tabling my opponent. Oh and killing their warlord the most embarrassing way possible
For my chaos
The overwhelming durability of death guard

The possiblity to convert, scratch built and customized it. Orks are my favourite army of course but i also have space wolves (lots of different heads and bitz so no model would look the same to another one) e dark eldar (same as the sw). I enjoyed converting grotesques and talos from ogres and stormfiends. In general i only consider how the army looks and about the game it must have some close combat oriented units. I also like tyranids for their style and aesthetics but i can't afford a forth army and the bugs are extremely expensive too, also models of the same unit look too similar.

AdMech - with few choices available to a unit, the unit becomes the tool rather than the load out.

For me it always was an intended subtelty of Eldar war doctrine and mythology - that they must steer wars using highly scarce resources and subtle plans and cannot simply flood enemies with bodies. Combined with smooth aesthetics and things like mysterious Harlequins, they caugh me right after seeing 2nd ed codex for the first time, without any knowledge of 40K rules and power levels.

Sadly, that was never trully represented on the tabletop during 2nd ed (except for Harlequins) and got massively shifted towards masses of terrible guardians in 3rd reboot, and later with too much Saim Hann focus. Dawn of War caught this better and current Maelstrom can be made to represent this type of faction in an excelent manner, especially against resurecting horde armies.

And model range/fluff wise, I trully believe, that 40K would be much, much better setting, if GW invested equal amount of love to each and every faction in game, not just IoM. Every faction has so much potential to be almost standalone setting, that it is a big shame, that Space Marines are the main focus of GW marketing strategy... I never realy liked 40K Orks, but I fell in love in Rebel Grots of Gorkamorka! And I was never really into any main IoM factions during 2nd and 3rd but I had (and still have) a blast with Necromunda and will definately start AdMech army someday.

Guard: My tanks, I don't have many like a lot of players do but they really do blow me and the enemy away each time.

Marines: I get a lot of flack for this but I deploy Terminators a lot, I suppose its the rule of cool overriding the usefulness but I never battle without a squad or two and they always do something memorable, never underestimate assault cannons.

Can't decide which one of my armies is my fav so I'll put both

Necrons Warriors. The idea of these guys marching in perfect lock step accross the battle field, murdering anything in their way with mindless efficiency.

Guards man. There is something extra special when the last man in a squad survives round after round against the odds. Does not happen often but when it does...

Dark Angels: Cool lore, cool models, and the new Interromancy discipline is awesome

Daemons: cool variety of units, big beefy gods, and I laugh at your AP. My favorite is when people bring Grav against me: "Oh, I don't have an armor save"

Guard: Lots of bodies and big tanks

Khorne Skull Cannons for KDK.

Oh let me count the ways I love thee:
1. Grant my assault units grenades which they lack.
2. Strength 8, large blast, ignore cover which makes everything cry.
3. No rider which keeps them warm and safe in assault or against precision shots that the other Chaos Chariots have to worry about.
4. Can move 12 and assault which means it catches and munches on eldar jet bikes
5. Still strikes in close combat despite it's lack of riders.
6. Enhanced hammer of wrath on charges that can get it hull points back.
7. It's a chariot so if you cannot hurt AV 12, tough luck I'm just going to sit here and chew on your guys lol. (SOOOO many people forget this and end up in endless combat with it.)
8. WS and BS 5! RRAARRRR!
9. Daemon!

These things are just nasty and overlooked by a ton of people, the catching fast units thing is always funny. I point to these guys when people say there is no counter to eldar jetbikes. (Pssshhhh)

Salamander marines. I love dragon dragon scales along with the green color, along with their coal black skin and glowing red eyes. I enjoy the irony that out of all the Space Marines they are the most likely to sacrifice themselves to save a human life, yet their appearance is perhaps the most sinister and devilish looking. I like the feel they give me of real warrior-ascetics who dedicate their lives to war and yet create the most beautifully artificed items and weapons. Also, who doesn't love making your enemies die in a fire?

nou wrote:
For me it always was an intended subtelty of Eldar war doctrine and mythology - that they must steer wars using highly scarce resources and subtle plans and cannot simply flood enemies with bodies. Combined with smooth aesthetics and things like mysterious Harlequins, they caugh me right after seeing 2nd ed codex for the first time, without any knowledge of 40K rules and power levels.

Sadly, that was never trully represented on the tabletop during 2nd ed (except for Harlequins) and got massively shifted towards masses of terrible guardians in 3rd reboot, and later with too much Saim Hann focus. Dawn of War caught this better and current Maelstrom can be made to represent this type of faction in an excelent manner, especially against resurecting horde armies.

And model range/fluff wise, I trully believe, that 40K would be much, much better setting, if GW invested equal amount of love to each and every faction in game, not just IoM. Every faction has so much potential to be almost standalone setting, that it is a big shame, that Space Marines are the main focus of GW marketing strategy... I never realy liked 40K Orks, but I fell in love in Rebel Grots of Gorkamorka! And I was never really into any main IoM factions during 2nd and 3rd but I had (and still have) a blast with Necromunda and will definately start AdMech army someday.

Interesting you mention Necromunda - its what got me into IG - have a look at the link in my signature where I have gone with this. I actually liked the 2nd ed ork fluff, then I discovered the earlier books (ere we go etc) and truly fell in love. When I finish the fluff for my IGs, I was planning on doing something similar and as in depth for da boyz

Noise Marines specifically. I like the whole Emperors Children vibe, pre and post heresy.

If you haven't read the HH book Fulgrim please do. That is grimdark turned up to 11.

Orks,

The fluff is fun. Campy, but when written well can make them extremely menacing. They have a tendency to be a clown army, but when someone paints them right and does conversion work well, they can be scary.

It just sucks that in all the literature, it's literally generic hero guy slays thousands by the day. Takes the menacing nature out of them

The open ability to convert anything to something is really cool. Like anything, done right and it's got a barbarian going to loot and pillage your town feel. Like space green Vikings that raid and plunder. Just last night I cut open the front of a Sherman tank, brought it forward and clipped it to look like a ramp. But some flooring down in the inside and remove the turret and it makes a sweet looking Trukk transport.

Robes. Mother fething robes. How do you make terminators look cooler? Throw some robes on them. +1 coolness for having a hood instead of a helmet, too. Maybe a nice cape, although robes always come before capes for coolness factor.

I have a bit of a thing for DW knights, if you couldn't tell. IMO best models in the game, with scions or DA vets tying at a close second.