Solar Auxilia scoring units?

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**Unit1126PLL**

Peregrine wrote:
bogalubov wrote:
My point being that not every unit entry specifically calls out the dedicated transports that it can use.

And my point is that you're wrong. Not every unit entry specifically calls it out in the unit entry, but every unit with access to a dedicated transport explicitly states it somewhere. Access to Dracosans is not granted in the individual unit rules, but there is an explicit statement that you can take them. No such thing exists for the Arvus as a dedicated transport for any troops units. There is no reason to believe that access was intended, outside of your fluff-based argument that "solar auxilia should have flyers".

In general 30k is touted as much more of a laidback environment where you try to "forge" the narrative. So from that perspective a faction that got its start in void warfare seems to make sense as having access to flyers.

They do have access to flyers, just not with the specific units you (and I) want to carry in those flyers. Maybe you only play with people who let you make up your own rules as long as you can justify it with "forge the narrative", but I'm not interested in an army that I can only use if I can convince my opponent to accept my house rules.

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locarno24 wrote:
But are denial units. This isn't a system where objective secured is an issue - contesting your opponent's objectives with non-scoring household guard elites whilst holding your own with lasridle troops behind an aegis line still works perfectly well.....

On the other hand the lack of obsec works both ways. If I only have scoring units on a couple of objectives in my own deployment zone my opponent can tank shock a Rhino through the scoring unit to contest it, and then I don't hold objectives anymore. And with little or no ability to get those scoring units to any other objectives it makes it very easy for my opponent to know where they need to deliver their denial units. This is part of why Vendetta vets were so good in 5th (with the same scoring rules as 30k), your opponent had to respect the threat of a scoring unit appearing on any objective on the table at the end of the game.

As to your last point, Peregrine, don't forget the basic guns on all Solar Auxilia troops choices except the Flamer Section can knock out a Rhino from 15-18".

If a Rhino made it past your Valdors, Malcadors, Russes, Rapier platforms, and even basic troops... well I don't know what to tell you.

**bogalubov**

Peregrine wrote:

They do have access to flyers, just not with the specific units you (and I) want to carry in those flyers. Maybe you only play with people who let you make up your own rules as long as you can justify it with "forge the narrative", but I'm not interested in an army that I can only use if I can convince my opponent to accept my house rules.

If you're married to the tactic and want an iron clad rule book based way to implement it, take militia allies. Jam two squads of grenadiers in the Arvuses and enjoy. They even come with two special weapon slots for your IG veteran re-enactment. The provenance rule gives a ton of flexibility of how you run them too. This ally slot will give you access to gun carriages as well.