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Do you guys know if there is another hero that can heal like the shugoki?

Heal themselves, or others?

And are you talking about a combo set, or one of the skill things? (feats?)

Because I think a lot of the characters have those abilities as unlocks- the Warden has a lot of healing skills straight out the gate- his 1 is a heal when he kills Soldiers, his 3 is a self-based Healing Surge, and he can unlock a healing banner at later levels.

Conqueror can unlock a lot of similar abilities, as well as, I think, the Warlord.

The demon Samurai whose name I can't think of has a back breaker combo move that heals him

That would be the Shugoki, and he actually loses health if he misses the back breaker

But I think it also does more damage the more he's hurt.

Thanks war kitten.
I also can't figure out what his uninterruptable stance does.

Anvildude wrote:
But I think it also does more damage the more he's hurt.

If he's at critical health it's a one hit kill

I played it some over the weekend and it seems mediocre. The single player story is convoluted and poor. This feels a bit too fantasy/gamey in places and not enough in others.

Perhaps if I rent it and play it some more on my own, but dirty Vikings wearing horned hats and knights in plate that would poke their own eyes out just to be cool is a bit passe for me.

Ah, Usernamesareannoying, I just learned that! He'll flash white the first time he gets hit, and the attack will do very little damage and not interrupt things- lets you wind up a big hit and just ignore an enemy attack to let it go through. Mr.Fruit on Youtube explained it in a Shugoki video he did.

 Maniac_nmt wrote:
I played it some over the weekend and it seems mediocre. The single player story is convoluted and poor. This feels a bit too fantasy/gamey in places and not enough in others.

Perhaps if I rent it and play it some more on my own, but dirty Vikings wearing horned hats and knights in plate that would poke their own eyes out just to be cool is a bit passe for me.

Very interesting! The Viking helmets are all wrong of course (but then, they always are) but I hadn't noticed the knights armor being too anachronistic, other than the perplexing amount of flesh the Conquerors are showing. They're exaggerated to be sure, but most seemed to have their roots in historical armors.

Thanks anvil.
Some things can be a real pita to pick up.
I'm running the story now and really enjoying it.

I'm enjoying it so far. The campaign was shorter than I'd prefer. But I'm having a blast with the Peacekeeper, and I've even started to get a tinge better at blocking!

I bounce between my warden and shoguki.
Im ok on block but man do i need work on parry and dodge.
It would be nice to be able to avoid a shield break every once in a while, lol.

Yeah the Guard break counters are a massive pain to get off right

Remember, War Kitten, that Peacemaker (and maybe the other Assassins?) don't block continuously like most classes do- they put their guard down after a bit, so you still need to be proactive at blocking.

Anvildude wrote:
Remember, War Kitten, that Peacemaker (and maybe the other Assassins?) don't block continuously like most classes do- they put their guard down after a bit, so you still need to be proactive at blocking.

I'm aware. I've been relying more on dodges with the Peacekeeper, but I've been working on parrying and blocking now too with her

Suppose I consider Lawbringer my "main", tis just a pain to get the parries right, especially against quicker characters

 Irishpeacockz wrote:
Suppose I consider Lawbringer my "main", tis just a pain to get the parries right, especially against quicker characters

Same here. I just don't parry. Still get a pretty good KDR. Lead with a sprint+heavy, follow with a light, heavy, heavy then flip them, light, heavy, heavy, dead. Throw off ledges as situation allows.

I like the look and weapon of the Lawbringer- don't know how much I'll like the playstyle, though. Still waiting on getting the game proper.

I do know I'm going to be doing more Conqueror play than I initially thought- I like the Defensive, patient playstyle he's got. Though I dislike the 'hat brim' helmets he seems to have- I hope they have more traditional sugarloaf and greathelm styles.

I've nicknamed the Conqueror "Coffee Table Head". She's great fun to play, and an interesting contrast to my more aggressive Peacekeeper play. I actually think Conqueror is a decent counter to those Assassin type characters. Charge up a heavy then switch the direction last second to punish them when they dart in

Conqueror seems to be one of the few classes that can handle multiple foes with relative ease, which in this game is really annoying

The Conquerors zone attack is pretty helpful for that. She can maintain it for a fairly long period of time

That and Full Guard, which I don't see used enough. Especially with that 3rd level's "Heal when you block" ability. I could see a 1v3 or 1v4 totally going the Conqueror's direction. Just imagining them at very low health, going Full Guard, and regaining all of it while getting Revenge.

only bad thing about full guard is that it burns stamina badly.
you're out of stamina after a few hits.

I like the Raider, it's fun throwing players off cliffs or walls.

I've become partial to the Valkyrie. Sometimes it feels like I'm doing so little damage with her attacks, but tripping people with her spear is hilarious. Plus her level 3 javelin feat does a really sweet amount of damage

Hi guys. Do any of you know what the point of the level on gear is?
Is a lvl 3 arm better for some reason than a lvl 1 etc?
I can understand choosing gear according to the stat changes but i don't see a reason for lvl.

Haven't played the full game yet, so not quite sure, but I think the Level is mostly a Rarity and Starting Quality thing- like, a Lvl3 cuirass would be harder to get than a lvl 1, and would start with better stats. But you could Upgrade that lvl 1 to a lvl 3, and I think the stats would end up being equivalent.

Been having some success with the Conqueror, people expect the dump truck maneuver, but they rarely seem to expect the charged heavy. Guess it's because most Conquerors spam the shield bash....

Still hate fighting Orochi too

Anvildude wrote:
Haven't played the full game yet, so not quite sure, but I think the Level is mostly a Rarity and Starting Quality thing- like, a Lvl3 cuirass would be harder to get than a lvl 1, and would start with better stats. But you could Upgrade that lvl 1 to a lvl 3, and I think the stats would end up being equivalent.

In theory higher rarity gear just means the bonuses and maluses are bigger.

In practice sufficiently high rarity gear have two bonuses and a single malus, making them objectively superior.

You start to get epic gear at prestige 3 at which point you really notice the difference.