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ChainswordHeretic wrote:


I don't have a dog but based on the article I guess the reason is the "ick" factor. People don't want to trek along with a bag of hot feces in their hand.


Most places it is a law. My town it's $208.50 if you don't pick it up, or I throw it at you .

P.S. I am a dog owner, one being a Mastiff, and I've had to carry around that ten pound bag of Gack! Like some one else said, if you don't want to do it don't have a dog.

This thread isn't about whether or not to pick up your dog's poo, its about what you do with it after.

He made a comment that he would not want to pick it up, much less throw it away, and I pointed out that most likely is not an option.

As for my garbage I would rather they use it than leave it but I throw my dogs GAK in there so who cares. When we are walking we try to find public trash or a nasty business dumpster or something. If I did use a personal can I guess it would depend on the can. If it is nasty and smelly I wouldn't feel too bad but if it is obvious the person keeps their cans clean I would keep on moving and find somewhere else to dump it.

 sebster wrote:


Unless things are wildly different where you live, the bin doesn't belong to the homeowner, it belongs to the local government. The local government buys the bin, and it is responsible for replacing a bin if it gets trashed, and of course it is council that comes and collects all that rubbish out of the bin. There actually isn't an absolute argument that can be made in terms of property ownership.

I'm not saying people should be free to put rubbish in any bin they please, just saying that 'my bin stay out' isn't fairly weak ground.

Just to add another layer of difference from others, pretty much everywhere I've lived, we pay for cans, but they are not ours. Where I currently live, as well as previous places in my military career, a private company was contracted as the municipal trash removal service. All of these companies provided the trash cans used with their trucks, and rented them to customers.

As such, I would've been on the hook for damages probably caused by me, such as wheels coming off, or the lid broken in such a way that people would think people were jumping on it. Oddly, if you call in the damage, they'll replace your can and you'll be off the hook, but if you end service and turn in a broken can, then you get charged.

 sebster wrote:
Unless things are wildly different where you live, the bin doesn't belong to the homeowner, it belongs to the local government. The local government buys the bin, and it is responsible for replacing a bin if it gets trashed, and of course it is council that comes and collects all that rubbish out of the bin. There actually isn't an absolute argument that can be made in terms of property ownership.

I'm not saying people should be free to put rubbish in any bin they please, just saying that 'my bin stay out' isn't fairly weak ground.

In the US it varies, as others have stated. My own neighborhood is much like Ouze's neighborhood-- residents pay for their own cans and pay for the pick-up service.

 ChainswordHeretic wrote:

ChainswordHeretic wrote:


I don't have a dog but based on the article I guess the reason is the "ick" factor. People don't want to trek along with a bag of hot feces in their hand.


Most places it is a law. My town it's $208.50 if you don't pick it up, or I throw it at you .

P.S. I am a dog owner, one being a Mastiff, and I've had to carry around that ten pound bag of Gack! Like some one else said, if you don't want to do it don't have a dog.

This thread isn't about whether or not to pick up your dog's poo, its about what you do with it after.

He made a comment that he would not want to pick it up, much less throw it away, and I pointed out that most likely is not an option.

No one made any such comment. You are reading things that aren't there. I know this because you keep quoting me. I never stated I didn't want to pick up dog poop. So stop.

 KingCracker wrote:
Ive had people toss things in mine as well as go through my trash looking for scrap and the like. I personally dont care and have only said something to those people when they try to leave a mess. Its only happened twice where I shouted at them to not leave my trash area in a mess and they quickly cleaned up both times.

This occasionally happens to me as well and it is annoying. As I stated earlier I have more of an issue with people picking through my garbage for scraps* than I do with people dumping a random piece of litter in my cans. But I don't bother the garbage pickers unless they leave a mess. I once had a lady leaving bags of garbage on the sidewalk that she had already gone through. WTF is that?



*This is purely for privacy reasons. I've had my identity stolen numerous times, and while I shred all of my important documents, I still worry that something I throw away could be used to access my personal accounts.

@DarkTraveler777 Sorry if I offended you. you are correct, I did read this

In my neighborhood, if the poo isn't in a trash bag, it rarely makes it into the dump truck. For whatever reason, when a shopping bag with a little bit of poop falls out of the trash container whilst they are dumping it into the truck, they don't pick it up. No reason other than laziness I guess.

But its pretty common in my neighborhood to see poo bags just chilling in front of peoples yards until the homeowner picks them up and puts them in an actual trash bag. Pretty fething annoying.

So why did dog poop stop turning white like when we were kids in the 80's?

 AegisGrimm wrote:
So why did dog poop stop turning white like when we were kids in the 80's?

GMOs, Vaccines, fluoride in the water, chemtrails. Take your pick, im sure google will give one of those answers somewhere

^ The food back then produced had a much higher percentage of calcium in it than today and that high dosage was what gave them the white dried out quickly deposits you know and love from the 80's

Its also going to depend what bin it's thrown into,

some people have waste bins (fine to put poo bags in as long as they're out for collection rather than just emptied)

plus a variety of recycling bins which may well go out on a different day and where a poo bag is not appropriate (and in some areas/countries might even lead to the home owner being fined)

 nerdfest09 wrote:
^ The food back then produced had a much higher percentage of calcium in it than today and that high dosage was what gave them the white dried out quickly deposits you know and love from the 80's

I think this is by far the best response to come out of this thread!

My poo knowledge grows.

 Ouze wrote:
Obviously your mileage varies depending on locality, but where I live, there is no municipal trash pickup. I bought every trash can we have, I pay to replace them when they get damaged, and I pay $90USD every 4 months for a private company to come collect my trash. This would apply to everyone who lives in my township.

Private companies competing for bin collection actually makes a lot of sense, especially if streets or HOA can negotiate on behalf of the whole street.

But how does buying your own bins work? Are the bins standardised so the machine will be able to pick them up? Can you buy bins of any volume?

We also have no water hookups (we have a well, which we paid to re-dig and replace the pump when it got hit by lightning), no sewage hookups (we have a septic tank which has constant expensive issues), no plowing in the winter, we have to maintain our own road (by paying a guy to spread gravel), and we have no local police department (only the country sheriff). It's a real libertarian paradise out here.

Been spending most my life living in a libertarian paradise.


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 CptJake wrote:
I paid for my garbage bin and recycle bin, and pay a company each month to pick up. So, yeah, it can be wildly different.

Interesting. Same questions as to Ouze - are you shown which bins will work with the rubbish collector? Are you restricted in the size of bin they will pick up?

Yet even if in the case where the city or someone else provides the bin, it is yours to maintain, and a stinky gak smeared bin parked in your garage or next to your kitchen door isn't too desirable. Sure as hell the dog owner isn't cleaning out those bins nor is he paying for the service at the house he us dumping his dogs poo.

Yeah, I'm not saying there isn't a basic courtesy there, people shouldn't just dump poo in a bin where it might get squashed and stinky. Hell, even if it doesn't break those bags don't hold the stink forever. With a newborn in the house I know the limitations of a skinny bit of plastic.

I was just saying the 'my bin, my rules' thing didn't apply. Or as it turns out does apply, because it actually is your bin


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 Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Just to add another layer of difference from others, pretty much everywhere I've lived, we pay for cans, but they are not ours. Where I currently live, as well as previous places in my military career, a private company was contracted as the municipal trash removal service. All of these companies provided the trash cans used with their trucks, and rented them to customers.

As such, I would've been on the hook for damages probably caused by me, such as wheels coming off, or the lid broken in such a way that people would think people were jumping on it. Oddly, if you call in the damage, they'll replace your can and you'll be off the hook, but if you end service and turn in a broken can, then you get charged.

One council I worked at I noticed the new waste company we contracted was booking an insane number of replacement bins. It averaged about $10k a month (those green 'otto' bins are something of a rip off), where the previous contractor had spent less than $5k on replacements bins in a year. We contacted the contractor requesting records of each replaced bin. They claimed they weren't being replaced on request, but as the pick up crew did their deliveries and replaced damaged bins as they went. We asked if they were using a trailing vehicle with a bunch of new bins in it... exactly how did that process work? They said they'd get back to us. We later followed up asking for records of bin purchases by them, we were told that information would be very hard to get.

It became clear how this company was able to lowball on the bid in the first place, they were planning on making their money with fictitious replacement bin claims. I wanted to cut the contract and report them to the crime and corruption commission. There's probably reasons I don't work in contracts The problem solved itself, as the contracts guy just 'offered' them a contract variation which capped total bin repairs at $5k, and the offered to end the contract.

It's why I don't actually mind the idea of private bin ownership. Private ownership makes people responsible for the stuff on their own verge.


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 AegisGrimm wrote:
So why did dog poop stop turning white like when we were kids in the 80's?

I think its because people stopped feeding their dogs meat on the bone. It's the calcium from the bones that turn the poo white. I don't know if I just assumed it because of what happened when we stopped feeding our dogs bones, or if someone told me that, and if someone did tell me that I have no idea if they guessed or if they actually knew.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 nerdfest09 wrote:
^ The food back then produced had a much higher percentage of calcium in it than today and that high dosage was what gave them the white dried out quickly deposits you know and love from the 80's

I think this is by far the best response to come out of this thread!

My poo knowledge grows.

Suddenly this thread turned out to be informative as well as a good reason to talk about pooh!

I don't care if you put stuff in mine, but I won't put stuff in someone else's, cuz people, in general, are entitled crybabies and I don't wanna have to deal with someone else's tantrum.