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So I guess Wednesday is Odin then? That Russian Guy Who's In Everything called him Wotan a few times, that's another Odin name, right? And I'm assuming That Russian Guy is Thor, with the hammer and all. Cloris Leachman was great as usual, dunno who she was supposed to be? An old goddess or just a gypsy fortune teller type lady?

Not Thor, he's Czernobog, as one would expect there's nothing subtle like an alias about him.

A Slavic god, considered the evil "black" god and a counter point to his "white" brother. Hopefully the imagery of the chequers and the speech about them both turning grey makes more sense now!

(PS I had to Google it when reading the book!)

The sisters are kind of made up, but influenced by various female trinitys of mythology (norns / fates / witches etc), Gaiman uses the concept it a fair bit (Sandman, Stardust, American Gods, Ocean at the End of the Lane all have them), but they are more or less Gods

Actually, they're legit, but in the original myth/folklore, there are only two, guardians of the morning and the evening. Gaiman added the third (the youngest who guards the night.)

Again, Google was my friend!
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zorya

I stand corrected then Ted

Is this something you need Starz to watch? Is it on Netflix or Amazon Prime?

Amazon Prime in the UK, and I'm pretty sure the same in the US, but you guys get a new Ep on Sunday and we get it on Mondays.

I has the A-Primes. Thanks!

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Most likely, there are a fair few 'Coming to America' stories in the book, hopefully they'll add one in for Mad Sweeney as the book alludes to him more than a Leprechaun

Episode 2 added a hint to one of those stories - the guy with the flaming eyes that bumps into Shadow at one point is almost certainly one of the characters from the one about the djinn driving a taxi in New York.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Most likely, there are a fair few 'Coming to America' stories in the book, hopefully they'll add one in for Mad Sweeney as the book alludes to him more than a Leprechaun

Episode 2 added a hint to one of those stories - the guy with the flaming eyes that bumps into Shadow at one point is almost certainly one of the characters from the one about the djinn driving a taxi in New York.

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Most likely, there are a fair few 'Coming to America' stories in the book, hopefully they'll add one in for Mad Sweeney as the book alludes to him more than a Leprechaun

Episode 2 added a hint to one of those stories - the guy with the flaming eyes that bumps into Shadow at one point is almost certainly one of the characters from the one about the djinn driving a taxi in New York.

Spoiler:

I thought that the Djinn went back home in the end of that story.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Dreadwinter wrote:

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

 Turnip Jedi wrote:
Most likely, there are a fair few 'Coming to America' stories in the book, hopefully they'll add one in for Mad Sweeney as the book alludes to him more than a Leprechaun

Episode 2 added a hint to one of those stories - the guy with the flaming eyes that bumps into Shadow at one point is almost certainly one of the characters from the one about the djinn driving a taxi in New York.

Spoiler:

I thought that the Djinn went back home in the end of that story.

Spoiler:

Only because he tricked someone else into taking over. There was still a djinn in NY.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:

Spoiler:

I never thought Salim was tricked. Or at least, if he was, he still ended up better off than he was before - he's now got a better job than trying to sell nick-nacks for his brother-in-law.

As for the djinn wanting to get back home, I'm not sure it was to avoid Wednesday's war. A major theme of the book is that all the American gods are just splinters or offshoots of the "real" gods (Shadow meets the real Odin in Iceland in the epilogue) and America is just a really awful place to be a god. They all end up as sad, desperate hustlers one way or another.

Maybe, but it's a still a little bit risky for mainstream or even cable networks, even shows like Constantine, Lucifer and Preacher danced very carefully around that, although the cast listing shows multiple Jesus' so who knows

So a bit of a middling episode this week, mostly filling and expanding the worlds

The opening was interesting, showing the old gods can 'get by' on even smidges of second hand faith, even over more mainstream faiths

Salim's story was well done with the Ifrit seeming just as lonely and lost in America as Salim, which as my previous comments show I didn't feel in the book version

Mad Sweeney was excellent as ever and the car accident was full on Fuller-fu

The bank job was cool and kind of long term foreshadowing

Still a bit unsold on the end reveal, did it 'work' for people who haven't read the book ?

I was a little confused with the whole djinn scene. Where did the beardy guy go?

The bank part was fun.. but why does the apocalypse have to be in Wisconsin?

I liked the opening scene with the reaper guy, looks like the next episode will be interesting with shadow moon's wife coming back.

From the scene in the show, it kind of appeared that the djinn possessed the guy or stole his body or something.

In the book, the djinn is desperate to return home, so my take was always he took the clothes and passport and ran for the airport (that might be explicitly stated in the book, don't recall.)

I'm conflicted as to whether the implication was that somehow the djinn did something when they had sex to create Salim as another djinn (there's definitely some sort of fire transfer thing happening, but I'm not sure that's just a metaphor for what's going on between them physically, or meant to mean something more.) Certainly the "I don't grant wishes" comment could be interpreted a number of ways. I always took it as a con trick for the djinn to get home, now I'm not so sure.


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Oh, and Necros, the reasons for things happening where they do has already been touched on, but should get more fully explained later on, Wednesday has a conversation with Shadow about it when they get there.

Yea the Djinn part made little to no sense to me as well but if it gets explained later than cool with me. I thought the Djinn looked cool as hell otherwise.

 KingCracker wrote:
Yea the Djinn part made little to no sense to me as well but if it gets explained later than cool with me. I thought the Djinn looked cool as hell otherwise.

If it follows the book, there's no more djinn stuff, you'll just have to decide what you think is the right interpretation, what gets explained later is the reason that events need to take place at the locations they do, at least it should, but that has already been touched on, so may play out differently from the book.

Episode 4 "Git Gone"

Somewhat of a major departure from the book, but solid none the less, and well carried by Ms Browning

I liked showing Shadow as naturally morally fluid

I would have liked to have seen Wednesday at the Casino, maybe nudging Laura into the affair, but I'll settle for the Ravens at the house

Laura's argument with Anubis reminded me of Sandman when a couple of dead boys refuse to go with a frazzled and over-worked Death

Confirmation that she was the one to Zombie-Doll Tech Boys drones, and how she 'see's' Shadow has implications

The whole Laura / Audrey scene was fried tragi-comedy gold

And we end in Cairo dealing with the impracticality of being living impaired, oh and Bast

I really think this episode has sold me on widening out the world with non-book materials, did miss my dose of Wednesday though

Agreed on all points, but making the show not totally reliant on its main, or at least most charismatic, character, and showing that it can be entertaining independently is a strong positive.

Especially as I suspect we'll get a good number of episodes up in the snow with little or no Wednesday, unless they decide to expand on what he was up to in that period in a separate narrative thread, eventually.

True, still a bit worried that Lakeside is going to be a drag, so anything that provides otherness to that will be welcome (plus the place had that whole Twin Peaks vibe going, which might jar now Agent Coop et al are back on the tellybox)

The wife and I enjoyed this one far more than last week. I agree with the above posts this episode was pretty enjoyable

It was ok, but kind of hitting a pet peeve where the ended in the same place as the previous episode so it just feels like nothing happened/progressed.

Back story happened. The show progressed.

Yeah I know, but the repetition was a little annoying.

Perhaps if episode 3 had ended with the look on Shadow's face, and then this episode ended on "hello Puppy", it would have been less irritating, but then the repetition helps tie everything together, so ...

Interesting that Shadow is in jail for getting caught during a robbery his wife instigated, as opposed to an assault charge ( I was going to say for defending Laura, but I think I'm getting mixed up with Con Air).

Yeah, it would have been much better had we ended three with him walking into the hotel room and seeing his reaction with no idea what he saw, then four shows us what it did and ends in the room again and we know it was her.