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I'd re-write the IG rules to emphasize how rag-tag their forces can become, and how they rarely stay uniform after their first engagement.

Then re-build the infantry sprues to encourage mixed units, and make pieces and conversion kits for as many different styles of IG infantryman as possible.

Each sprue should have enough parts to make 10 generic guardsmen (Cadians), but also come with enough alternate pieces to make two individual soldiers from some/all of the following:

Catachan Jungle Fighters
Mordian Iron Guard
Death Korp of Kriege
Tallarn Desert Raiders
Elysian Drop Troops
Tanith First and Only
etc

Then also sell conversion boxes on the online store, or from forgeworld if you want more of one specific regiment.

Basically, if you buy 5 infantry squad boxes, you should have enough bits to make 5 squads from 5 of the different regiments, or 5 Cadian squads. With some support from Forgeworld or the GW Online store, you should be able to make an all-alternate regement with just a few additional purchases.

Then do the same thing to the IG that they did to space marines, and make with the regement-specific rules.

Cadians have leadership advantages.
Death Korp of Kriege can spend CP to bring in reinforcements.
Catachans can infiltrate, and tend to kill commissars (but get additional bonuses when they do).
Elysians can deep strike all their infantry.
etc...

There were loads of great stuff in the old lists:

Penel Battalions, Beastmen Attack Squads, Jump Pack Assault Squads, Human Bombs, bike squads, land speeders, Rhinos, back when there was more than Marines that got looked at.

Human bombs aren't coming back. Get over it.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Human bombs aren't coming back. Get over it.

Jesus Christ! Human bombs are the weapons of terrorists which are showcased in the news on a monthly basis. It´s appalling that somebody would even think about this as a feature in a tabletop game.

Back to topic. Old regiments in plastic or updated!
I would like to see:

- New Catachan Infantry Squad.
- Catachan Choppa. These guys don´t need a Landspeeder.
- Named Catachan characters as a special veteran squad like the dirty dozen.

GW, you can do it. Burn these Uber-Marines and get back to the Imperial Guard. ASAP!

I'd like updated models. Especially the Cadians. The HWT and the Infantry Squad are both very old, I believe they're from 2003? The Command Squad is I think from 2008?

Yeah I'd like some new plastic infantry.

I'd also really love a refurbishment of the Leman Russ. Fix some of its glaring tank design errors (the sideskirts are the worst aspect, cannon could use a redesign, turret is too small, yadda yadda), and just generally upgrade the kit. Same with the chimera.

And new Rough Riders of course. Maybe mounted on light bikes.

A new aircraft would be nice, something less transport related, more air support. The Vulture is the obvious choice.

A light weight vehicle like the Tauros would be nice. Basically an Imperial Guard form of Ork war buggy.

The problem with Guard regiments is that everyone has different favourites. I guessGW could just power through - but for instance I am meh on Cadians, anti Catachans, pro Vostroyans but really don't like Tanith etc.

So a whole new Vostroyan line would prize some money from me. A Catachan line wouldn't.

Does anyone really want a £45~ kit or something equally obscene where your 10 guard have half a dozen (who missed out?) different uniforms for each model? I don't really want to pay for say 60 torsos when I am only going to use 10.

The only option as I see it is a new set of Cadian infantry and then Forgeworld sells upgrade sprues that will allow you to build the regiment that you want.

I wouldn't bet on it happening though.

I voted None of the above, I want plastic navy kits.

New higher tech regiment. Gulliman himseld said entirely new weapons of war and I don't think he will stop at Primaris. I think it's only a matter of time until we see next generation Imperil Guard weaponry.

This could get me to start the army. I mean I always liked the Guard but haven't had time to do it with so much other projects.

Gulliman is going back to the old way of organising the Imperium no reason to think he won't take some looks at how they used to be.

 Gamgee wrote:
New higher tech regiment. Gulliman himseld said entirely new weapons of war and I don't think he will stop at Primaris. I think it's only a matter of time until we see next generation Imperil Guard weaponry.

This could get me to start the army. I mean I always liked the Guard but haven't had time to do it with so much other projects.

Gulliman is going back to the old way of organising the Imperium no reason to think he won't take some looks at how they used to be.

I agree, but model and stat wise, that's already pretty much the Scions. They get the best gear and have the best training. Its only their fluff that is a bit goofy. If you just use them as a kasrkin or grenadier analog, they're great elite troops for a guard army. I've been painting up mine as kasrkin, since finding the actual kasrkin seemed like a hopeless quest.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Simple question. Would you rather see new Regiments introduced or showcased, updated Regiments of old, a "new Imperial Army" reforged by Guilliman to cope with this new Dark Imperium?

I'm really not at all a fan of the way the "Primaris" thing has been done, like, at all, and *really* don't want to see anything similar happen with the Imperial Guard.

However, it would be neat to get a couple pages of Regiment rules, maybe a couple unique units for a few of them, basically the way most SM chapters have traditionally been handled in Codex: Space Marines. That would be neat, and a good way to use the new army construction rules.

As for new regiments, I'm not sure we really need anything new, we have tons of lines already, and most of them are neglected. Some of them are old enough that they could be rebooted and relaunched in basically the same way as an entirely new line. I'd really like to see the Steel Legion get updated personally.

I'd like to see a mix of the above, though obviously all at once is too much to hope for. I'd like to see the older regiments get phased into plastic, and possibly one or two new ones crop up as well.

Make 2 boxes - a 10 man Infantry Squad kit that comes with 10 lasguns, one of each special weapon, and one of each sergeant weapon, and a Command/HWT box, that comes with 3 HWT and 2-3 models to make a company commander, a bannerman, medic, a tank commander and the like with (and possibly a few bits to spruce up other infantrymen, to help differentiate them). Basically similar to how Cadians are now, except the basic infantry one would have a decent selection of special weapons and the command and heavy weapon boxes would be combined. Spread it out with 6-12 months in between for breathing room and it might work out - at that point it would depend on if GW decided to charge some absurd amount for 10 guardsmen or if they'd keep it in line with what they are currently selling Cadians and the various metal regiments as.

If truly wishlisting, I'd love to see the old 3rd edition stormtrooper models come back. I wouldn't mind Rough Riders in some form or other either, though I'd rather see them more as a dragoon type fighter than Mongols in Space.

With all the talk of Armageddon lately (Shadow War, and the focuses they had on the community page a while back), I would love to see plastic Steel Legion more and more, though I suppose that so long as they keep selling the old metals I can live.

You know, the kharadron Overlords code shows that it is possible to create a custom rule system. I'd use that as a base for a future IG regimental system.

I still think that they'll need 3 kits (infantry, command and heavy weapons) per regiment but as for what to do regiment wise, I just don't know. I feel like gw are going to standardise them more.

Say, what about this? One kit that can make two different types of regiments. They both share the same basic uniform, but the difference comes from the heads and the arms. One regiment has helmeted heads and their lasguns are short carbine style weapons, whilst the other regiment has a more elaborate looking hat or whatever and carry long rifle style lasguns. It could be done in the style of the skitarrii kit, except instead of ranger and vanguard heads it's two different regiment heads and instead of radium jezzils and galvanic rifles (I think?) it's two different types of lasguns. And there is still all the extras like vox casters and every kind of special weapon.

Maybe they could do this twice? Two different sets of boxes equals six kits and four regiment types. And maybe they can be compatible with each other and the Scions too for even more flexiblity. Those beret scion heads wouldn't go to waste.

Make a box with the options of GS-Cultists for loyalists and we're halfway there.

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Human bombs aren't coming back. Get over it.

Jesus Christ! Human bombs are the weapons of terrorists which are showcased in the news on a monthly basis. It´s appalling that somebody would even think about this as a feature in a tabletop game.

Really? There's a faction that exists by abducting, enslaving and sadistic torture and you're going to get triggered by a suicide bomber? You know what else is in the news constantly? Air strikes on civilians. Is the existence of flyers in the game `problematic` as well?

On the topic at hand: Guardswomen. The meat grinder is an equal opportunity employer and this has never been properly reflected in the model line. Don't bling them out like every other ridiculous new release. Don't make them sluzzy fantasy soldier girls.

Yes, female IG please. They might need a new name besides guardsmen now. Guardspeople?

Also, I had a thought about what they could do with the IG but it's controversial and I'm hesitant to even mention it for fear of starting a big fight.

They don't have the change to Guardsmen just because women are in the army. lore wise they are already there.

Let's see, it's probably not going to happen, but I'd like plastics of:
Armageddon
Vostroyan
Valhallan
Mordian
Tallarn
Praetorian

Cadians and Catachans could use an update.

I'd also like to see regimental doctrines (chapter tactics for guard, basically).

I'd also like to see the following wargear options:
Lasguns for sergeants
Camo cloaks
Carapace armor
Krak grenades
Melta bombs
Searchlights
Relic plating
Dozer blade
Recovery gear
Extra armor
Fire barrels
Camo netting
Enclosed crew compartment
Auger array

Additionally, I'd like to see Veterans moved from the overcrowded Elite slot into the under-utilized Troops slot.

I'd love to be able to get plastic tallarn. ATM have grenade launcher minis and really want plasma but modding metal minis just isn't my forte. Also would love a heavy stubber heavy weapons team crouched prone as well. I never understood why death Korp were the only one allowed to take what is essentially heavy machine guns??? Because forgeworld I guess. Also would love to get back salamander command and scout vehicles.

Lastly, one feature is for scout sentinels, vox caster equipped guardsmen, and aforementioned salamander scout vehicles be able to function with artillery in some way to boost their to hit chance as long as they have los. Competitively and narratively this would be so awesome!!!

That's something that could be utilised by CPs. The marines have something similar in a whirlwind and landspeeder combo. I'm sure we could get the same.

Ha.......

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Simple question. Would you rather see new Regiments introduced or showcased, updated Regiments of old, a "new Imperial Army" reforged by Guilliman to cope with this new Dark Imperium?

I'm really not at all a fan of the way the "Primaris" thing has been done, like, at all, and *really* don't want to see anything similar happen with the Imperial Guard.

^This. I cannot stress enough how big of a sh*t storm it will cause if GW tries to be lazy & combine all the regiments into some super regiment under the direction of Guilliman. Absolutely not. I'm not a fan of what they did with the primaris marines, like at all & I don't want to see it happen to the guard. Guard players find different regiments appealing. Its one of the primary reasons people play guard. Honestly, I do not know what is so hard about GW updating infantry kits for the old regiments. The "molds are expensive" excuse holds no water. 3rd party modeling companies like Anvil Industries/Victoria Miniatures release new models all the time & its a non-issue. They also generate enough profit from said molds to run a business.

I'd love to see some plastic Vostroyians. Something about their aesthetic always appealed to me.

Honestly though, the IG aesthetic always struck me as a little odd. Given that they're using outdated technology and frequently short of supplies and such, I'd exect them to have a more haphazard look (a bit like Orks, though probably less extreme). Like, I wouldn't expect Leman Russ to all look like they'd just rolled off a factory line - I'd expect to see mismatched panels, guns that don't quite fit, missing track wheels etc. Same with the infantry and such - I'd have though that their equipment and uniforms would be, well, less uniform.

Maybe that's just me though.

 Strg Alt wrote:

Jesus Christ! Human bombs are the weapons of terrorists which are showcased in the news on a monthly basis. It´s appalling that somebody would even think about this as a feature in a tabletop game.

Those terrorists are murdering people they believe to be heretics, unbelievers, hypocrites etc., and doing it in the name of their god.

Should we also abolish Sisters of Battle, the Inquisition, Space Marines and such lest they also hit too close to home?

As well Orks do the same with suicide like units.

 Commissar Benny wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Simple question. Would you rather see new Regiments introduced or showcased, updated Regiments of old, a "new Imperial Army" reforged by Guilliman to cope with this new Dark Imperium?

I'm really not at all a fan of the way the "Primaris" thing has been done, like, at all, and *really* don't want to see anything similar happen with the Imperial Guard.

^This. I cannot stress enough how big of a sh*t storm it will cause if GW tries to be lazy & combine all the regiments into some super regiment under the direction of Guilliman. Absolutely not. I'm not a fan of what they did with the primaris marines, like at all & I don't want to see it happen to the guard. Guard players find different regiments appealing. Its one of the primary reasons people play guard. Honestly, I do not know what is so hard about GW updating infantry kits for the old regiments. The "molds are expensive" excuse holds no water. 3rd party modeling companies like Anvil Industries/Victoria Miniatures release new models all the time & its a non-issue. They also generate enough profit from said molds to run a business.

Ah, then you wouldn't like my idea. It was sort of...a little bit of both.

But yeah, looking through the space marine range, they get seperate kits just for different armour types. Honestly, GW could probably afford to run several different types of regiments at once.

Space Marines are a boatload more popular than Guard, though, so I imagine supporting multiple different regiments at once would be less viable. Not impossible, of course. Just...less likely? Just my perspective.

My question is, with Cadia now gone kaplewy, will the Cadian models remain the premiere AM units going forward? Will we see a new regiment directed by Rowboat Grundleman chosen from another world start to take centre stage? Has there been anything in the fluff to suggest a shake up for the Guard?

Catch 22. The IG aren't supported as well as they could be miniature wise and so don't sell well. This prompts gw to think that people aren't interested in them and thus pull back on fully supporting them. That's my theory anyway.

And I think it'll be an all new regiment.

Technically the whole Imperium is using "outdated technology". If you could get some *really* old tech from the Age of Technology it would be leagues better than anything the Imperium uses currently.

But they're not rag-tag at all, unless they're Catachans (who are deliberately an army of Rambos). Imperial Guard regiments are a professional army that, most of the time, is quite well supplied. Their stuff, within the regiment, is standardized and mass-produced. They are the standard armed forces of the Imperium, just like the standing armies of any modern nation. We're not talking about Bubba and his uncle Jim-Bob rustling up some planetary militia here.

Edit:

Also, player-wise Imperial Guard are almost even with Space Marines. They're a very close third for player-base, right behind Chaos who are almost dead-even (though that's all of Chaos, if you split Daemons and CSM their numbers drop dramatically). The only way Space Marines would be "boatloads" more popular is if you lump Chaos and Space Marines together.

I'd love to see some of the ideas presented here. But I'm kinda against the mega kits that have the options to build anything! The price of that than kit would be ludicrous. You'll build what you want, then you are left with a pile of useless bitz that you can try to sell but will most likely end up in the bone yard as I like to call it. I already find the heavy weapon team kit too expensive. I'd like to see the option of blister packs again for units like HW teams where I can by one of something.

I'd hate a mega kit. Personally, just make things cheaper and a wider range that incorporates buy individual bit as well like so many other companies do.

I would love a ground up redesign of basic IG troop kits to include more ornate/Gothic elements and not just look like starship troopers cos players. Give us something grimdark and unique, chalk full of detail and they will sell like hotcakes. Imagine how easy it can be:

1) New infantry kit of 10 guardsman/veterans alternates
2) New HWT with multiple weapon options
3) New Command Squad kit with options for Company and platoon commanders.
4) Vehicle upgrade sprue with crew and decorative bits

Boom! 4 kits; you get to sell those and you get to sell the rest of your range which includes 7 different types of tank, the Valkyrie, the Taurox, the sentinel, the scions kit and the ogryn kit. Seems incredibly straight forward and intuitive to do, and it's a smaller release than most one month releases.


Having said that I would give an arm and a leg for plastic Vostroyans, alas I don't see it happening anytime soon.