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It actually would give Conclave some purpose with it's option to cast from '36 range, if the unit wasn't so poor.

What else is there? Kronos stratagem only works for a single psychic test, and in MP game you can only use the same stratagem once per phase. (and it's actually 1CP, really cheap stuff)

The best one of our powers I can think of is Word of the Phoenix, but soulburst can happen without that power too.

Is Kronos a worthy fleet to go if you don't always play against eldar though?

 Karhedron wrote:
I know there are plenty of armies who would be happy hitting on a 4+ but they don't pay as much for their heavy weapons.

I think there are more armies who would be happy to have something like WW with it's high stats, good bs, outflank, 5++ etc. Not to name things like Crimson Hunters who outperform DEs Ravagers by far.
We take too many things for granted.

Both jets are great. Range can be a weakness of hemlock (like screening), but you have to pay something for OP. I'd probably mix them together if I had more than 2 jets (2 hunter 1 hemlock). Taking more hemlocks makes you outstanding against some things, but not all of them.

I'm kinda wondering what exactly is that general consensus is based on, since last time even on large tournaments people actually paid for them.

Yeah, 200 price tag on Hemlock makes it's so much sweetier. Interesting thing is, Autarch on bike has it's own special rule - which is good design, yet others couldn't just get Battle Fortune, count the points in and forget about it. It's not like this shield is optional.
It is such a trivial matter to just clean up codex and replace wargear you can't do anything about with with a random special rule I don't understand why it's not a thing. Looks like designer's laziness to me.

Or perhaps GW cares more about PP play.

What about Alaitoc & -1 to hit stratagem on top of it to make enemy shooting less effective? How about target priority? (prisms working together with serpents carrying something on the level of Yvraine & WG)

The prisms sorta having "weak link" is understandable, but they're very pleasing aesthetically and it's first edition when they can do *something*, since one where they would lose their main gun turn 1 and then score you objectives rolling Holo-Fields. I finally want to melt something with them. They also have that 2d6 anti-infantry option.

Problem is, 2 is not that survivable, while 3 is an overkill. And you can't bring 2x2 and make it work with the deathstar card.

Well, Reapers would ignore that -1 regardless.

Supreme Disdain looks like a stratagem made for Scorpions, since someone mentioned them. It can potentially triple Exarches attacks while others roll 5s if target unit in cover (whatever "in cover" means).

Does Forewarned stratagem imply that both units must be from the same craftworld?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/
Press 40k.

Wrap your Triumvirate box in tape and mail to GW, demand a refund.

hat the hell!? SfD really only makes sense working in your opponent's turn.

Not exactly, it works if you kill an enemy unit in your turn.

States quite clearly (as far as I can see), that you can take any of the codex datasheet entries for say, an Autarch, but then apply the weapon options that were available in the index, at the points costs from the codex.

Yeah, but what about warp spider jump pack, it's out regardless?

You would have to bring the Index datasheet for the warp jump generator autarch I believe so you would lose path of command :(

But muh faq says use CODEX datasheet, but wargear options from INDEX, but CODEX rules...

So the fact that Autarches & Hemlock are "equipped" with their stuff... do we pay for it or what?

Thanks.

Spiders could use something like increased D if target has more wounds than 1 (except Vehicles). For now monofilament weaponry is too similar to shuriken one.

Spear are good, but getting more than two units (one saim-hann one quickend) you can only reliably bring two units that do all thier damage.

Three if you make one of them Ynnari.

Scorpion still looks p. hot to me.

Dionysodorus wrote:Some examples of things that just wreck Alatoic Spectres, even in cover:

Auto-hitting eldar jet, top tier melee units and Smite can kill a unit which relies on protection from shooting. That's not a surprise and probably is how game is supposed to work.

FarseerReborn wrote:
What do you guys think about this tournament results?

Happy so many eldar made it into the top 10. Not happy everyone decided on 1 small ynnari detach & alaitoc else. Not surprising, but I thought maybe something like a huge amount of Ulthwe guardians or some Alaitoc Fire Prisms would make it into the lists at least just for an experiment. Nice to see someone warmed up to Banshees, they're a great unit.

I am not surprised at all. A detach of 2 units like 10 Reapers and a Shining Spear squad make the best of SB mechanic, while Alaitoc does the rest. You get your double-tap on a shooty unit, while Spears get their Move SB after killing enemy unit in melee. Those are 2 best SB actions (although you could also get a Fight SB with Spears when multi-charging I guess).

Judging by the amount of psykers in lists (sometimes 6+), we are also capable in the smite-spam game.

I'm more sad that there is just no balance between Craftworlds whatsoever.

BANALce.

In your average list without something special to buff, protect and without Ld shenanigans, Doom + Executioner would be my go-to pick.

Faolchu's Wing solves the issue.

 Korlandril wrote:
Novalance can only be taken on a Skyrunner Autarch with a Laser Lance.

Even more, he must be <Saim-Hann>. It's a tricky relic to take without giving up doctrine bonus on him and his detachment, WL traits and so on.

Outdated FAQ though, judging by soulburst questions which became irrelevant with Ynnari change (like charging in enemy turn with soulburst).

Anyone tried to come up with math for Enhance and Empower compared to just Smiting the enemy unit? When do I want to use these, unless it's obvious (like 10 Wraithblades)? How about Drain and Enervate, what do I use them on, and what kind of eldar things won't die after getting charged even with -1 to hit, concidering we're within '18 of enemy unit already.

It seems like by design we have 2 ranged runes, 2 melee and 2 utility. From them, 1 ranged has as many applications as Doom (Jinx) and seems too good not to take - not to mention it carries with it a powerful buff as well. Reveal is not bad, but already situational. Extra movement phase has many applications, but Embolden/Horrify looks like Mind War/Hemlock thing only.

Jinx stands out from those just like Doom stands out from whole Fate tree. You'd think Enhance is so situational that it should work just like Jinx & Doom, yet it doesn't.

This makes me concider a 2 warlock conclave to merge rarely used powers with better ones. Say I will pay 15 more points than a Spiritseer. It's same wounds, 2 extra attacks and 1 extra shot, although SS hits on 2+ re-rolling 1's, of course. Let's say I just want to Quicken 1 unit of Shining Spears, and then I really don't need this power that much. So a 2 model council could take Conceal/Reveal & Quicken/Restrain, and use Reveal later. At the same time I get access to 2 Stratagems - '36 inch one and +1 to tests (for Eldrad it could mean +2 for tests).
Baby Smite sucks, of course, but I am concidering the option. Another point to SS is that SS can take either Seer of the Shifting Vector or Stone of Anath'lan.

To cast, yes, but to actually have - Conclave always knows 2 powers even if there are just 2 warlocks.

They're just 2 small infantry models, probably can be hidden somewhere. They don't even need LOS to the enemy. I want meh '36 Jinx out of Deny range.

But I hear you, not being characters hurts. ...I hope Conclave would get some sort of re-design... in a few years. Eh.

I end up with 3 WS in every list I make, usually with Bright lances. I think they're best main battle tanks in the Codex. Unless you count Crimson Hunter a tank, that is.

Looking at Concordance of Power wording, I got a bit confused: when DO I declare actual target for my debuff powers? I take I just don't declare targets at all until I manifest powers? It's counter intuitive but means enemy has something to be nervous about. And I was always all gentleman like and declared what I am doing before casting.