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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 Niiai wrote:
"There is no time in the warp." What does that even mean?

Does it mean nothing happens there? Everything that ever happens there happend at once at all times? Does it mean your wristwatch stops working? Do everyone who passes through the warp have no recolection of it because no time passes?

If you wanne look closer on it time does not even excist. It is just a concept humans have made up because it is convinient for us. Also psycologsts have pointed to parts of our brain that experience what we call time. It is an entierly abstract thing to measure increasing entropy.

"There is no time in the warp." That is just sloppy language to explain something complex we do not understand. And I do not believe it to be true for one second, even within the fictional universe of 40k. You can say the imperium has a poor understanding of the imaterium, but for time to not excist is absurd.


time existing has no bearing on whether things happen or not, if every thing that could perceive the passing of time vanished, would time still pass? The answer is no, because time is a human concept to explain the world around us, when we are gone, the universe will know nothing of time.

If you are exposed to the raw warp, to literally evaporate into it, so yep, wristwatch stops, but jokes aside, time flows in the warp if a very different manner, it isn't Forward and back, it's back, forward, stop, start, slow fast etc. And changes on a whim, you could have been fighting for a few days and 100 years have passed elsewhere in the eye, time is meaningless to the warp.

People passing through the warp use gellar fields, a bubble of reality to protect them from direct warp contact, but they are still at the whim of the tides, so 7 months pass in the warp, 600 years in real space, 25 mins to the people on the ship, any and all these things can happen.

And it's not sloppy and not even limited to 40k, dr strange defeated dormamu with time, a concept a being from a completely different dimention had no understanding or experience of, but back to 40k, it seems to me it's not there understanding that is wrong, but yours, you for whatever reason can't grasp the idea that different planes of existence have different "laws" ours is physics etc. The warps is "concept" time has no meaning in the warp or to the gods because it simply does not exist to them, where as in real space you can bet your bottom dollar that Desmond understand what time is.

Time is a human concept that they bring to the warp, not a law that governs the warp.
   
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Well, no. Time isn't just a human concept. We define units of time based on the vibrations of certain atoms. What is a human concept is our perception of time.

And of course, since the warp is another dimension, time being rooted in this dimension won't exist there. Not in a way we recognize. You could travel through the warp, and to you you experience 2 weeks inside your Geller field bubble, but when you return to real space a thousand years could have passed. Or you could pop out a thousand years in the past.


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MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
Made in gb
Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain





Earth

 Grey Templar wrote:
Well, no. Time isn't just a human concept. We define units of time based on the vibrations of certain atoms. What is a human concept is our perception of time.

And of course, since the warp is another dimension, time being rooted in this dimension won't exist there. Not in a way we recognize. You could travel through the warp, and to you you experience 2 weeks inside your Geller field bubble, but when you return to real space a thousand years could have passed. Or you could pop out a thousand years in the past.



Interesting concept, I still stick by my statement but will look into what you are talking about as I always like to learn new things.

It's weird but I think the gellar field may be the most advanced tech in 40k, it literally a bubble of reality and all the things that comes with it, like psysics, gravity etc. In a parallel universe that has none of those things, it's crazy
   
 
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