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 EnTyme wrote:


That's debatable, but to imply that the link is to a bundle box of four minis priced at $140 instead of a one-click link isn't accurate.

I'm still confused as to how we can be 4-5+ years into this trend of GW having one-click bundles and actual boxed sets with discounts built into them...and people still can't tell the difference?

 Kanluwen wrote:

 EnTyme wrote:


That's debatable, but to imply that the link is to a bundle box of four minis priced at $140 instead of a one-click link isn't accurate.

I'm still confused as to how we can be 4-5+ years into this trend of GW having one-click bundles and actual boxed sets with discounts built into them...and people still can't tell the difference?

Willful ignorance that help them maintain the narrative that GW is evil as opposed to a company that occasionally makes some baffling decisions.

 Thargrim wrote:
I wouldn't buy that set to save my life.

I am pretty sure, that if someone held a gun to your head, you would be pretty thankful to go home with an empty hole in your wallet rather than in your skull.

I won't because I don't play the factions. IIf I played all four factions then yes I would.

As it is I don't need the models so I'm not going to buy models I won't ever use.

 Crimson wrote:
This poll is lacking options.

I don't buy the set, as I don't have use to (all of) these models.

I will probably buy the Sigmarine individually though. Maybe the Warqueen too.


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Furthermore, why is this in the 40K section? These are AoS models.

Most likely reason? OP wanted to start an outrage thread about GW being greedy and evil, but the AoS forums on this site don't get enough traffic to have a good long GW-bash thread, and so went to 40k General Discussion since its one of the more trafficked forums on dakka and the people who want to ride the GW hate train won't care to notice.

On topic, these are gorgeous models that generally speaking most people would not buy more than one of, if they bought one at all. Is $35 each a bit much for a single, normal human sized mini? Maybe, I would argue that the price should not be based solely on the size of the mini, but on the detail and artistic skill presented in the mini as well. Not to mention that each of these minis is rather unique within their respective factions. Order gets the first Stormcast with a noticeable lack of armor (bare arms and bare head, what armor he has on isn't all that bulky), Chaos gets a female barbarian queen (aka Red Sonja), Death gets a ghost with actual physical weaponry and armor, and Destruction gets a goblin wizard with lore of mushrooms. These models are going to stand out in collections, not just for how awesome they look but also for how unique they are among the other minis available.

Personally I plan on getting the Death one eventually. Maybe the Stormcast one, though I kinda prefer my Stormcast to be helmeted, but who knows, this guy might be the one to change my mind.

I will eventually get the death and order ones. In the distant future, maybe the other two as well.
25 euros is a huge lot of money for a single miniature, but these are miniatures you are only ever going to buy one of, so that makes the cost bearable. Still, it is excessive enough to make me only ever buy something if I absolutely 100% need to have it. I would have bought more different characters if they had been cheaper.

Odds are good I will end up getting the Death one. The poll by the OP is kinda garbage though.

I pre-ordered the Warqueen along with the book and cards last weekend.

I think it's complete BS that they are 35 instead of 25. The latest Primaris characters are 25 each, and I can't bring myself to buy single-sprue figures that cost the price of an entire 3-man Primaris Aggressors easy-build box.

Which is a shame, as I really like the Stormcast (would be great for my all-bareheaded skirmish warband) and the Warqueen would go great with my upcoming Bloodbound project so my wife would have a female character.

But you can probably go on Ebay and just about get the entire Bloodbound half of Age of Sigmar for the 60 bucks that those two figures cost.

I won't buy the set, because I don't collect each Grand Alliance. I will possibly buy the Death Harbinger, because I'm considering starting a Death army, but my Chaos stuff is all Tzeentch so not terribly interested in the Darkoath Queen either.

I'm not an idiot... I was stating that the price of the Inquisition HQ's would be about the price I would pay for HQ's as a whole.... And no idea where you live because those prices are way lower where I am than the ones you are saying. Also I have a few Inquisiton so I know they're older models but I tend to buy those models on ebay because if I'm buying old I might as well buy the original miniature.

pismakron wrote:

 Thargrim wrote:
I wouldn't buy that set to save my life.

I am pretty sure, that if someone held a gun to your head, you would be pretty thankful to go home with an empty hole in your wallet rather than in your skull.

Uhuh, and then i'll be back the next day to return the unopened models and get my money back.

The models are "ok" not great. I like 2 of the 4, but since I really only have a thing for my nighthaunts, I will likely wait and get Keldrek off of ebay or in a trade.

The prices on those models are absolutely insane and personally I would have avoided putting them into a bundle at all as it just highlights how insane some of the prices are and would only serve to put off people looking to get into the hobby.

I'm gonna buy the King of shroudes.. Finally a general with an actual command ability for my nighthaunt!

I've pre-ordered all 4. Not for retail price, because why would I? OP's poll is crap because it assumes people are only buying direct for these, but who buys anything direct these days unless you absolutely have too?

I'm taking part in the Malign Portents thing at my local Warhammer store, so I'll be getting the order harbinger.

The fact that the Start Collecting box I got was Sylvaneth and the herald doesn't fit in with the army doesn't really bother me, as I'm more of a painter these days.

As for the price, I was actually expecting them to be more as they are the special campaign characters.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I've pre-ordered all 4. Not for retail price, because why would I? OP's poll is crap because it assumes people are only buying direct for these, but who buys anything direct these days unless you absolutely have too?

It is not crap because at the price point of the models in question, IMO the 15% off doesn't suddenly make them acceptable to those that think they were already too expensive. 17 quid vs 20 quid is still 5 over what I'd call reasonable...

That set of Harbingers is £80 in the UK, to my mind is a prohibitive cost, regardless of the rules each character might have.
GW have always liked to sell you the rules rather than the figures, what I mean by this is that a blister of three poor lowly footslogger has always costed less than one powerful character, even if there’s less sculpting and plastic in the pack. It’s because of “this guy is really awesome on the table”.
Fair enough, it sells models, but annoying none the less.
If I really wanted them I would convert my own, if I REALLY wanted them I’d cough up, but I’m an adult with a full time job, and that’s a full days pay. The GW sales target is kids whose parents buy them everything, isn’t it?
I guess it’s like Pokemon cards... manufactured demand, and if people want to buy them it’s up to them.
To be honest if GW can get away with it then it must be working for them. More fool us, eh?

I like these models, but I have no need for any of them, as I don't play AoS. Even if I did, I'd most likely play only one faction, making the other three models superfluous, unless I had someone I could give/sell them to, because that's a lot to pay for just one character.

If I wanted one of them in particular, I'd attempt to buy it from eBay, because that's what's going to happen here. You'll have people who buy this set for the one character they want for themselves, and then put the rest up for sale individually, hoping to cover most of the cost. This set is basically for eBay.

 CoreCommander wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I've pre-ordered all 4. Not for retail price, because why would I? OP's poll is crap because it assumes people are only buying direct for these, but who buys anything direct these days unless you absolutely have too?

It is not crap because at the price point of the models in question, IMO the 15% off doesn't suddenly make them acceptable to those that think they were already too expensive. 17 quid vs 20 quid is still 5 over what I'd call reasonable...

If you're only finding 15%, you're not looking hard enough. At 25% to make them 15, that's reasonable enough. And like anything in life, if you want something, save and learn to look after your money.

Turns out you can order them individually as well, so my mistake.

However, the set doesn't make any sense because you're not saving any money buying the bundle, with each character costing $35 each.

Thunderforge wrote:
That set of Harbingers is £80 in the UK, to my mind is a prohibitive cost, regardless of the rules each character might have.
GW have always liked to sell you the rules rather than the figures, what I mean by this is that a blister of three poor lowly footslogger has always costed less than one powerful character, even if there’s less sculpting and plastic in the pack. It’s because of “this guy is really awesome on the table”.
Fair enough, it sells models, but annoying none the less.
If I really wanted them I would convert my own, if I REALLY wanted them I’d cough up, but I’m an adult with a full time job, and that’s a full days pay. The GW sales target is kids whose parents buy them everything, isn’t it?
I guess it’s like Pokemon cards... manufactured demand, and if people want to buy them it’s up to them.
To be honest if GW can get away with it then it must be working for them. More fool us, eh?

Or that little thing called "economics of scale" which is even more evident on plastic characters and even more on plastic special characters. The less sprues they sell the more they need to charge per sprue to recoup cost of mold(and quickly preferably. If it breaks even after 5 years not much good especially as majority of molds sales are in first few months). And no matter what you do you are far more likely to sell 10 sprues of skeletons than 10 sprues of Nagash.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 CoreCommander wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
I've pre-ordered all 4. Not for retail price, because why would I? OP's poll is crap because it assumes people are only buying direct for these, but who buys anything direct these days unless you absolutely have too?

It is not crap because at the price point of the models in question, IMO the 15% off doesn't suddenly make them acceptable to those that think they were already too expensive. 17 quid vs 20 quid is still 5 over what I'd call reasonable...

If you're only finding 15%, you're not looking hard enough. At 25% to make them 15, that's reasonable enough. And like anything in life, if you want something, save and learn to look after your money.

I am telling you the truth that I couldn't find an online store that gives 25% off, is in British pounds, doesn't charge additional shipping fees, has only 5 items in their catalog, requires you to spend an unreasonable sum in order to qualify for free postage or, like wayland, takes your money then waits for a couple more orders to build up so items can be ordered in bulk from gw so they can send it to you half an year later. If you can find one please PM me (I'm serious). I haven't been able to find one that can beat element and firestorm yet on all the above and they\re both giving 20% tops on sellouts and 10-15 % off on their regular items. I'm stopping here with the store debate.

 Zingraff wrote:
Turns out you can order them individually as well, so my mistake.

However, the set doesn't make any sense because you're not saving any money buying the bundle, with each character costing $35 each.

Because, as has been explained a great many times and will continue to need to be explained, it's not actually a money saving bundle.

The one-click bundles NEVER have saved you money. The only times they do are when they include an already money saving item(such as a Start Collecting set) as part of their contents.

If you don't see a special box in the product views? It's not saving you money.

They're going for $40 Each, CAD. You don't have to buy the box, so I wouldn't.

Nor do I play the game, so I wouldn't.

I like the Goblin Shaman, but like $15 to $20... if I played the game. I like the Wraith's concept, but wouldn't buy it. The other two are uninspiring, to me, though interesting to see a woman warlord for Chaos. Boob-plate and chainmail bikini bottom aside, it doesn't feel like a "sexualized" model. A powerful berserker woman, but not "sexy", so I like that direction in terms of modeling choice... but it's not my taste anyhow. At risk of sounding prudish, more armour and less skin and I would like the model more.

The models aren't worth that much, to me, but I can see from GW's perspective that while not everyone will buy a given infantry model, "more" people will buy the character models, so if you "gouge" on them, your magins go up.

Not for me, but I prefer kit bashing my characters, given the option.

Nope.
And while i do collect NH, i wont get that hero as the model is fugly as hell in my eyes and chopping up a single tiny hero model that costs 20$ ish is out of the question.

Eventually want to get them all but that overall price will make it a one model at a time thing spaced out over a long time.

I'm okay with the individual prices because the models are so good with rules to match but I could get something better from GW for the combination.

So the Shroud and Engineer(might take Sureheart instead) will come first with the others much later. (Don't even need them besides how cool they are)

(Also yes, very lackluster poll skewed toward negative results and the OP was likely looking for a rant thread from where he posted this)

Honestly, I can't even really bring myself to get the Lord-Ordinator despite playing Stormcast. It just didn't speak to me based on his fluff.

I like the image of him being a frontline engineer sent forth to use the power of civilization against the forces of disorder and that he will return to build for the people again once the conflict is over.

Otherwise I can see what you mean. I like the knightly and warrior focused style of the Stormcast as well but be's a nice change regardless.